Ben Max, executive editor of Gotham Gazette and co-host of the Max & Murphy podcast, and Gloria Pazmino, politics reporter at New York 1, talk about NYC's 2020 candidates.

"Part of the problem is that de Blasio is in a sea of stars and he’s just not a star. He just doesn’t have the charisma that some of these other candidates have." - @TweetBenMax explaining why de Blasio's presidential campaign isn't taking off.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) August 28, 2019