Ambassador Vakil from Iran

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W.H.Y. the present international interview produced with the cooperation of the Overseas Press Club of America. This is a series of informal under her interviews on problems and issues of international interest in our panel of newsman and our special guest moderator for the series is Seymour and SIEGEL And I was Mr SIEGEL How do you do like a Little Gentleman welcome to the national interview liberalizes I have as our guest in this edition of INTERNATIONAL in appeal he's actually I'm saying the best of our many back Keelan Poland representative of Iran to the United Nations Mr Ambassador welcome back to the national interview to question them best of all is a distinguished panel and those men who are now introduce themselves I'm live on cases showing all. I'm going to go to the Associated Press I work in the United Nations. I'm Reinhart starting up United Press International we thank you gentlemen the first question for Mr Bashir Mr Ambassador last on that on this show together you had. Made your position on Vietnam very clear you said if I remember correctly that if the bonding would hold in North. On one on the deadly be a great chance for peace in Vietnam could you give us your views on this since the bombing has stopped. But I have. No special information about the negotiation going on in Paris except to pace maybe up. I am optimistic I believe that. In negotiations. Time and again set back on the whole I think it's going in the right direction and I am hopeful. Question for Mr Otis Mr Ambassador and Mr Young of Sweden who had been trying to settle a conflict between the Arabs and Israelis Middle East has just given himself another month to work in and lately has talked to foreign ministers of Israel and Egypt. Have you noticed any progress toward a settlement has come out of these talks and what do you think is going to happen. I think that's apt to months ago. Insisting that they should have talks that they're not up now that they have agreed to talk to the. So that up through Mr Yunupingu to work through most of the audience I believe this is a step forward. The question is To what extent they use that is prepared to implement the Security Council resolution. That they can find common ground on the ground. To putting the visit was one of the of the Security Council do you have the impression that the mystery man did not answer the question of his last talk with Mr as to whether Israel was ready to implement the resolution if you have if you are attending to the talks between Mr Evans and yelling out yesterday or the day before yesterday I don't know because I haven't seen any of them but if you're talking about the talks he had previously is Mr yarning. I believe that. It was not extreme the promise. Question was expected from him. On his return from from Televisa. Question for Mr Stewart Dr LOCKYER How does the Middle East crisis affect your company politically economically. And in the Middle East graph it does not affect particularly making the Middle East crisis affects the whole worse. Then Middle East is the Broadway Asia. Trade is always going to Japan and to Europe goes all these while surveys and abilities exceed the span on the economy of the UP I did stops the whole world would suffer from it's not only the question but. In the region. Naturally more interested in what's happening an average of the people who are far far away and they believe that the settlement just lost in peace should be should be found and the family of the opinion that no country is entitled to gain. With it is because of the conflict that it is in contempt of the word. No but at the economy for example shipment all shipments been reduced because the smoke and I was just. Question for Mr Bush's. Or that is one item can be a United Nations which examines the use of the seabed. And I think Iran is playing an important role in this debate could you tell us a little more what is the objective of this problem the UN Well we believe that. The said sign that United Nations is. Considering a problem which has opened a new dimension in the in the life of our own time the first environment was about outer space around atomic energy the second one was outer space that in most of these questions several are only two superpowers who have the capability and the financial resources to get these new environments he believes that the seabed and ocean floor which is also a new environment there are more people more countries who have the financial resources and capabilities are exploiting the resources of the seabed and the ocean floor. Anxious that what ever it is done in the United Nations is not a license to make feed for those countries who have the capability of exploiting their wishing for the believe that it should be exploited in the interest of the whole mankind they believe that it belongs to mankind. But. What we are concerned about here in this event on the Ocean Front are international waters beyond the national jurisdiction and I have used the vegetation in the United Nations rather than the red sovereignty because a jurisdiction which it's it's a bread which is more flexible because the definitions which have been found I still now are based. Facilities of technology to what extent to what that the ocean bed or the seabed on the ocean floor can be exploited is there is a tendency to do do suppose the idea to have it and international agencies under the supervision of the United Nations to supervise all this work we have I gotten nothing against it but I believe this is just premature. I believe that we have been working in this in the fields of space Iran is a member of the Committee of the space and be American therefore for us for almost nine years and I think it's a long process and we don't have yet an agency for outer space ideally Hughes out on the ocean floor and seabed. More images and tangible. Results to be drawn from it and therefore we are perhaps near that and more countries of interest in that can benefit from it and can cooperate with the others but I believe that there was it is premature to question the should be considered very carefully perhaps by the committee that's going to be set up. Question. Mr Ambassador do you think the government should take part in the Paris talks and you think think it's the government does not agree to Paris talks the United States should go with the head with and then. I think that the whole read is expecting that these negotiations should. Continue and that he they go to sleep. And no can say should stand in the way including the can to. Move more from the country. And the setting to satisfy. And I hope that to be on the. Question. There were reports that. Some. Groupings are forming in the in. The Indian Ocean area also because of the even stronger. Of the British forces I think by nineteen seventy one. As well as any negotiations about that are sounding. Are going on. And the colonial power was conducting this to me before I. Sometimes say that this to me. That I have. No information about what the stage they have but what I can say that. In favor of regional cooperation we believe that all the countries of the region should. Operate in every the spec. Economical ease socially and other bodies but what we cannot accept is that. God is regional cooperation some sort of Sydney colonialism disguise colonialism should remain on this but. On what. Colonialism but I'm sure that wasn't there are. Some negotiations between Iran and Saudi Arabia on this although there are rather have there been talks I don't know that there's been any negotiation in talks between Saudi Arabia and Iran didn't say and cooperate but those are quite friendly countries and His Imperial Majesty is going on official visit to Saudi Arabia in a few days in a day or two if I'm not mistaken and then they will continue to cooperate the calm contact and consultation but I don't know that we have to visit each stage of negotiations to our mind the first step should be that the colonial power should leave that these shakes them massed to cover their freedom and after that is a wrong to unite and to to make a federation or whatever they wish they have no objection but am saying that we don't want for instance the. Units the military units of the British military units which are on the spot to be the strong to be the place by something similar measure the people of the vision that's under the command of the same colonial powers. Question firmest I'll ask you another question then with Iran Young was the lose to the United Nations Human Rights Conference. What D.H. even discuss. What I mean by the average is it's going to be the. Final Act of the conference it's going to. Some of the. Results of that conference in Tehran. Be put before the General Assembly to be acted upon I think that's. A ride subject that I think that after twenty years of their deaths from the rationing we have made it got picked up progress even the fact that such as such the confluence was head it on it's an indication that we have made some progress in this respect but of course it cannot be spectacular it cannot be something which overnight. Sold the problem it's a small and continuing process that's the result of that. Conference will be before the third committee of the General Assembly pretty soon and I think that the SEC the general has invited many candidates to send a special representative to a celebration of the twentieth set of a city of their adoption of the declaration which I am not mistaken did take place on the ninth. Of December my government has accepted in the invitation and it was elected entered by Lady high caliber representative. Is. Highness Princess Ashcraft was the president of the international conference in Tehran will be the delegations seconded by Mr Lester a lot is a former president of the general the central. Question is most oh this Mr Ambassador you said of all of those who are in favor of regional cooperation in the least Do you think that Israel should be brought into such cooperation and in view of the way things are now between the Arabs and the Israelis you think there's any way to bring Israel into that kind. Cooperation there is no way up to now because whenever that is an easy general. Conference on meeting even under the edges of the United Nations none of that I will attend because it's a. Is this normally I think that the accepted rule among. Friends is that they will attend a conference if it's on the web wide basis even if Israel is on it they will not attend a. Meeting if it is honest and. Have a feeling that the reason why the Economic Commission for the Middle East has not been set up is because of these registers in the suspect. Do you think in principle be a good idea for Israel to be brought into a regional corporation the least. Good idea for whom I mean it's. A good idea. If through the implementation of that I mean they have to go step by step to do something in the future. Can that Arabs and Israelis and to our mind the best way to do it. By implementing that is illusion. If it is then I'm hopeful that they can go further. Question from. The question whether it's. An exhibit of uranium paintings Columbia University a little bit about this. That. I had been called upon previously to talk about my county especially in. Letters and. Societies. Expecting me to talk about the past. Everybody knows that that history goes back because it is stated two thousand five hundred years ago everybody knows. The content of the contemporary Assyrians. Babilonia everybody knows that the seed. Exiles and they send them back to their home to two thousand five hundred years ago everybody. Said I mixed have part. Of culture. Everybody knows that mathematicians philosophers studies jugglers. Have made a great contribution to the everybody knows that Iran is the link. And the rest of today I believe believe. There is. Only relation to problems on the Persian Gulf. Countries. Perhaps the low points. In the nineteenth century where perhaps they. Neglected to match the brutal force of the West and civilisation of colonialism whatever you want to call it but fortunately. We came to our senses and vigorous and forward looking leadership to moderates have the. Five senses. A sense of achievement and we are looking nation. Is in the last twenty years I think that our. Capita income has gone up a lot. Of the Konami growth is around nine percent last. Some opinion that it. Went beyond that today is the capita income is about two hundred sixty five dollars. Right it's not very high compared to Western standards but if you go around the region you can find out that it's pretty high and our goal for makes five is to go beyond three hundred. Wasn't there also some outstanding work and eliminating an alphabet pyramid cause they have very very we have achieved that is that they have. They have set up many especially of course of course. The literacy course was was a fast one but they have the same thing in. Medicine they have the same thing for development project they have the same going now they have the NE The new innovation is that the garrets are joining these phases course and they they get training of about four months and they go to the villages to teach to improve the local life. Question from us to sort of just because. You said I'm not going back to question you said that the resolution of November twenty two nine hundred sixty seven must be implemented and accepted now you knew that. And Jordan has accepted to implement this resolution in all its forms and is and has not up to date given an answer that they would implement there were fears or there were moods and there were some people thought that is that I was being encouraged by United States and waiting for the results of the election. Now that the elections are over do you think that it is nigh on sense to do the resolution and extend its implementation. But I think that it is. This is for me to find out what is on the mind of the Israeli leaders as they waited for the Axiom of the election in this country or not. But to what extent their results the outcome of the election will be. In this favor I don't know that the problem is that this problem with the May that is expected of the outcome of the election. And I believe that it is in their interest to solve it as it is in the interest of other countries. When you say that they have accepted and they have not accepted from what in turn transpires in the press these days you say that they have accepted too that it was a face I am not mistaken. They said that there is a framework through which I give them and should be reached then them then selves and out of countries but the other countries do not consider that a thing as a friend because they believe that all the sets A principles the only thing is that the mission of Mr yarding is bringing the two parties together then for all the implantation implementation of those principles which are in the resolution one by one. Mr masterful I'm not mistaken. Iran had trouble getting the Soviet troops out after the Second World War. And security council had to be called in on the case how are your relations with the Soviet Union now. I think they little by little through patients they have come to understand some sort of a something that finish of that that the neighboring countries that it is in our interest to have some sort to have economic. Relations and. It is to the benefit of both people to do that that the only prepared to go into these fields provided it is on the principle of mutual respect independence and integrity and I believe that. I have reached that understanding with the Russians on. Many. Of the I'll explore it in together. And how are your relations with the United States and do you expect that. Because of his experience and get nominated States will not retreat into isolation of the United States a great power United States cannot afford to retreat from the work we have steam defended of nation of the United States the intent to keep them in the intent to strengthen them and I believe no matter who is in the White House these relations to continue. QUESTION Mr Sarkozy. Method and you will come fitter Santo still a treaty that is very much alive has been set that it's on the way out farm where the center is the general facts like Mayfield like glass but. I don't believe that the other one is the other admittedly fact I just sung a day there when they were born and therefore I think that the web is not static the way it is progress think and I think that nowadays main interest in the general co-operation between the country that the region and the C.D.C. is active and center and that now pursuing Buddhism a view to a close as I told you I take. Notes as we went along you tell us that you have no special information on that in these negotiations and powers but you're optimistic you're hopeful and you think it's going in the right direction up to a month ago you told us that the Israelis had insisted on direct talks with the Arabs. They now come on the question as to what extent the Israelis wish to implement the Security Council resolution you told us that the Middle East crisis does not affect Iran it affects the whole world it's important to feel to the economy of the well you've think that it's just I'm less. Pay should be found in your family the opinion that no country should gain Totoro from any aggression your oil shipments you tell us of not been affected. From the for the third time you describe to us how the amount of Nations is considering a new dimension in connection with the same bad you told us that originally you consider the Tomic energy in outer space and now the seabed an ocean in the ocean floor with regard to the first two you said there were only two superpowers involved whatever is done at the United Nations you feel should be exploited in the interest of the little moon kind you're concerned with the international waters beyond what you called National restriction restriction jurisdiction I'm sorry to what depth can the sea be exploited us to us you feel that any discussion of United Nations agency to supervise the ocean floor is somewhat premature at this stage there are many more countries involved. Suddenly going back to the Paris negotiations you feel the whole world expects that they should be carried on and that no country should stand in the way you specifically indicated South Viet Nam. In so far as the final result of the conference which is how them. You think that these will be placed before the third committee of the United Nations you indicate that this was a small but a continuing process the twentieth anniversary of the declaration will take place on December the ninth was amount of thank your country or something about a very important representative there's no way you told us to bring Israel into regional cooperation because the Arabs will not a time amount like you said this is the reason why there was no Economic Commission for the Middle East established. You fail of the Arabs and the Israelis through. Best of the younglings can implement the resolution of the Security Council you think that this would be a very good thing. You tell us that everybody knows about your history and we were delighted to have you describe the many aspects of it that you feel that right now you are very much a living country that you up a capital income has risen to two hundred sixty five dollars per year and that moment growth was about nine percent your goal for the next five year period is to exceed three hundred dollars you feel the U.S. elections have not affected the problem in the Middle East you feel the US is a great wealth power and cannot afford to retreat your relations a good and you hope they will continue in that direction does this list investor and somebody fly reflect your view I think you have come to their own most everything that just one towplanes on human life I said slow and not small but I thank you room which was somebody. Goes to the distinguished members of our panel will see you all again next week. 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