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A charming discussion, peppered with advice, with Mr. Cowan (not Tommy Cowan) about a hypothetical baby named "Bobby". Fluctuating level and quality.
Audio courtesy of the NYC Municipal Archives WNYC Collection
WNYC archives id: 73842
Municipal archives id: LT5840
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Not at all it's just forty five hundred years the of the month times a month the dog bringing up bravely on the bone not just in the commissioner in charge of the terminal and child health center of the city health department this morning she is going to tell us what to expect of a nine month old baby Good morning Dr Baumgartner morning after Connally's body fine thanks but I have a lot of questions to ask apologize every time on a lot of questions and you know it's always fun for me to talk anyway to you know a little boy the age of the hypothetical baby on this program I think it makes it a very practical Well it certainly does so practical whenever I'm tempted to take it easy in my duties as a father and my wife comes up with the number what Dr Baumgardner and I don't like she used to say that very often I'm sure that by now Mr Crown you have a pretty good idea of the points I try to make on this program Sure I think gradually. Fathers know a lot about anyway I know they. Let me see if I can tell you what try to make parenthood the present joyful interesting story that should be and try to ensure that mental Well it's difficult. To I'm not of course a Pollyanna hope we can get around it is easiest job in the world but I do think that the sight of watching a baby develop is often males by just mothers and fathers who are and have gotten very no children I know to live in the so-called problems of childhood friends. Training starts when the usual gets in the development of the baby. Misunderstanding mishandling by parents at such times can create a real problem even though you concentrate on one particular month of development during each of these programs it seems to me that you touch on points of interest to all parents of well I hope that's true and it ought to be remember certain things are true for babies at any age I believe too that by suggesting what advances in the infant behavior may be expected by the schedule reading may be likewise special problems may be found as he grows up there and are going to find childrearing easier I've tried to communicate to all parents my own feeling that there is usually an easy time for each step in education and training and it depends mostly on what new thing moving and for the ready to do following the baby and his readiness for something new is a pretty good way to Bremer of course I want to make it clear that no two babies are exactly alike aviation's from the general of the rule not the exception the emphasis should be on encouraging the child to develop in his own best possible way at his own pace and not on forcing conformity to some preconceived idea all. Following that advice seems to work wonders what property is really a tremendous difference between the things you are able to do now and what he could do only a few months ago there is a little more lying around for that nine month old baby. Thirty busy little individual who are never live quiet when he's away eighteen is age can get up into most of them call many of them can pull themselves up to a standing position and they really learn to use their hands so well that they often pick up a crumb between from the index finger you know as part of quite a skill now they can and they do you need both hands at the same time course left hand in their right handedness comes later that's a very good description of Bobby babies certainly come a long way in nine months over to be sure nine month old babies are ready to take quite an interest in this world around them their family the household the street you know by nine months of a baby they're really participating member of a family. And they play for our market themselves but they do like company they imitate grown up actions they laugh on mother laugh and cellphone nursery games. Tricks alike and they can distinguish friends from strangers maybe a little shy of strangers especially if that stranger is stupid enough to approach pretty abruptly and how they love to cuddle mommy doesn't talk. About that too much actually that all babies may have a syllable or Jewish mother always going to understand when you're. Qualified for that just a little imagination wrong nine month olds often try to imitate facial expressions and part of their experiment with the muscles of the mouth they often have a habit of oh a rare thing the sound of a Bronx cheer without the social and. I've known some other conservatives namo vocal experimenting a bad habit actually spank a child or stop it and I just find that anything usable even if the baby doll with a whole mouth full of food and don't think they often don't have it stops of course when the baby has learned to do more interesting things with the same awful coffee for instance or other ways to transition from. A lot and there's always a baby can be helped to learn to see it helps for instance to talk to the baby quite often even though he doesn't understand most of running talking to him during the bath when he's being fed or when the rest is fun for him and he will watch and learn by listening and observing even when he doesn't know the words to remember it he can tell a lot about the feeling behind the words. Anderson of the baby show interesting words always say between the ages of nine months and then you're trying to limit less than talking Take a list of a common use for words like. Mom first show the object of the baby and then repeat the word several times such a lesson as we should only of course be given it and then the teacher both enjoy it tell me is there any objection other than just plain prejudice to baby talk to an infant or some very good ones it handicaps the child by teaching him to talk so that only the family can understand it and the baby will learn to speak clearly only if hears clear and distinct. More of the jobs they beat up on you don't know all the other children make fun of. Confuse a baby to learn two languages one. Learn a second. Grade learned when you're very young your two languages are spoken at home it's fine to the baby to learn but it will probably take a little longer for him to speak but it helpful for a person to know as you say more than one language but it really doesn't matter if it does take a little longer to learn ball to prevent the baby from getting mixed up it will help if the two languages are spoken by different person for example if there is a grandma who speaks or talian or Spanish or his teacher to the child the mother should usually talk English to him of course as a child needs to get more practice in the language he will use. That's certain. Tell me Dr what sort of schedule is a. Good part of. It is a journey though they may still take two naps a day and they'll probably sleep through the night you know it isn't possible to outline a schedule or would call nine month old babies any more than it is for a baby at any age but I can give you some idea of the usual day babies changing appetite is the best guide as to how to feed him or her there are nine month old babies who are still very hungry after a four interval and they should be kept on a four our schedule but most of them are ready for three meals a day and frequently just one that some babies awaken six they want a bottle others are satisfied with this one and the rest of the breakfast offered on between eight or nah. The baby main up in the morning if he does maintain lunches leave is one o'clock Sunday at eleven thirty or so supper three five six o'clock many babies are helped to adjust to the Mongar hours between meals by mid-morning and mid afternoon snack fruit juice and some toast or crackers a suitable. Jested and don't spoil the baby appetite for the next meal All right you are Mr Khan That's the way you've gone a lot off of these programs and also it's obvious living up to that schedule is fine now as to what a baby eats at nine months breakfast usually consists of fruit juice and cereal perhaps a bread milk lunch might be made or egg yolk at the not human for breakfast or a bit of cottage cheese potato green vegetables and putting your gelatin dessert in mail for supper a cream superstar after green potatoes cereal perhaps a raw carrot or a piece of toast or a cross to chew on and then a fruit or a milk dessert and they all know it depends a good day on what the rest of the family has the it's certainly good planning to make the baby's mayo on the family meal an offer like to avoid extra cooking as a matter of fact when a baby is just a few months older I'd suggest that he have the ME meal in the evening if that's what bait is being prepared for the rest of the family or say I didn't mention cod liver oil but of course it should be given every day that's a far cry from the feeding schedule I remember for Bobby a few months back and believe me it's fine to be done with night feedings and just say good night at six o'clock with a sense of the job completed Well they've obviously satisfied or that much that's well Mr gone but the job really isn't done its body is still hungry you know there are some nine month old babies who still wait for a ten P.M. bottle even if they've adjusted to three meals a day and if the baby wakes and the tape should be given that ten pm bottle until he's ready to sleep through the night with that it probably will get that ten o'clock bottle if he wants it. Dr Baumgartner that I promise you he no longer gets the formula that's a common thing yes by nine months most babies get whole boiled milk without sugar water and I guess that's really not a formula at home such How much milk should they get well but not more than a quart of milk a day is advisable However babies on a three meals schedule only sleep through the night may drink considerably less sometimes a little twenty ounces a day is not enough with a baby all right without a quart of milk every day yes and do try not to talk an extra mouth a tween that just boils a baby's appetite if he does drink last and important also rest and be included in the diet and in Syria also in putting green Serenus cottage cheese and of course he gets much of what he means from the other foods easy you know Bobby has only a few teas but the two some of his food is not going to definitely nine month old baby usually have a few teeth but they can not bring that in but they can chew even if they don't have any and they should be given a chance to do or say and dry bread crusts he told me he cared. Then two between nine months and a year it's a good idea to get a baby used to child instead of those strains in the secondary it seems harder to get babies to try new things at least in matters of who you know I guess maybe just like all grownups tend to get conservative with the age they seem less ready to experiment even if it's good for how do you begin course or well put a few peas or care in his and his tray and like trying to pick them up with these and you can mash it up a little bit and giving you just a little bit of main ideas not forcing and think how strange it must feel to eat course instead of soft foods for the first time yes that must be quite a new experience for a baby well that's all the questions Mrs Cohen and I have a ball thrown for this month but now I want to know something about the bad you didn't mention it in your schedule Oh well they need a daily bath or responder most of them enjoy it more and more as they grow older and you know they give it when it's convenient for mom and just so it's not just an after the babies me on that morning or before supper good times and there are two very good reasons why it's a mother's convenience that is of importance to babies bath time should be quite time and secondly because the baby must never be left alone in the bath job a serious accident you know it can happen in a few seconds it takes dancer a follower of a situation my life thanks the telephone receiver also looks before she stalks the bus so she won't be tempted to hurry to get to the phone right away our friends get a busy signal and will call back all at the new idea to me and I always learn something from others I don't have a telephone company with feel about it but it sounds like a very fine idea to me. Well Dr Baumgartner it seems that our time is almost up I'm beginning to see what women find to talk so much about when they're together well before I figure by do want to stress two points The first is that No two man nine month old babies are alike one will be tall boy as much as another baby who's a year old this doesn't mean that the big baby is ahead of the other babies of a motor men will develop tall I have a baby is often ness act even lazier than a little one and mental development the development of the sociability are usually about the same you know it's safer to get the baby's age by what he can do and how he plays in reacts to strangers and by size bodily growth tends to slow down during this last quarter the first year perhaps that's of it for this reason the mental development is so noticeable now what's the second well that these first on this first year is so important for the baby's future it's not only that he's building a good sound body but he's learning and learning more problems and he'll ever learn again a nine month period he's learning about how solid food feels and he's now about how to pick up things and how to throw them down and so on and he's getting his first class news about how to get along with other human beings are we as grownups treating him as teaching him to trust our distrust other folks I never thought of it quite that way before Dr Baumgardner I guess we need a lot of better baby care if this world of ours gets to be a safer happier place for all people it's too big an order for one poor father but I guess I can start with being sure about Bobby right Mr town and that goes for all time and now I must say goodbye and I do hope you will all continue to send me your questions in your suggestions in your criticism. That's the way I learn and you can learn to make these programs more useful thank you and goodbye Dr Baumgardner assistant commissioner of health of the New York City Health Department will be with us again on Tuesday October eighteenth at ten forty five if you want a copy of this or any of the previous talks in this series write to the Department of Health one hundred twenty five Worth Street New York thirteen this is the municipal broadcasting test.