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David Furst: This is All Of It. I'm David Furst. Alison Stewart will be back later this month. Thank you for spending part of your day with us. On today's show, the Africa Fashion Exhibition at the Brooklyn Museum is the largest presentation of the subject to date. It traces the designs and designers from the continent, going back to the 1950s. We'll hear from its curators.

Later, an entertainment coordinator and former performer transports us to the New York Renaissance Fair, which runs in Orange County for the next few weeks. Kings, queens, metros, knights, fairies, all encouraged to call in. Plus author Etaf Rum discusses her second novel about a young woman who believes she might be haunted by an old family curse. That's all on the way. Speaking of books, let's get things started with some recommendations for the fall.

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If you're feeling the end-of-summer blues, we've got something you can look forward to, fall books. It is the busiest and buzziest time in publishing with hot new books coming out from celebrated authors like Jesmyn Ward, Paul Auster, Zadie Smith, Mary Beard, and more. No matter your taste in books, there is likely to be something coming out in the next few months that will keep you turning pages. Here to join us to recommend some of the best upcoming fall books is All Of It and Get Lit book club producer Jordan Lauf. Welcome back.

Jordan Lauf: Hi, David. Thanks for having me.

David Furst: Listeners, we would love to hear from you. What is a book that you have read recently that you really would recommend? It doesn't have to be a brand-new book. Maybe it's a book you read this summer that you just really loved. Or what is a book you're looking forward to reading this fall? We want to hear your book recommendations. Give us a call or text at 212-433-9692. That is 212-433-WNYC. Before we get to your new recommendations, can you remind us what the September Get Lit book is?

Jordan Lauf: Yes, I would be happy to. Everyone, Get Lit is back this September. We are kicking things off with a great read from James McBride. His new one is called Heaven and Earth Grocery Store. It follows a Jewish and Black community who've been together in the early 20th century to protect a young Black boy who is deaf, who the state wants to institutionalize. It's about two Jewish owners of a grocery store and the Black community and how they coordinate to help save this boy from institutionalization. We're really, really excited for James McBride to join us on September 27th. We'll be back at the Stavros Niarchos Foundation library. I think I said that right.

We'll also be with musical guests, Carla Cooke, who is a jazz singer, who James McBride requested himself. He really wanted her to come join us. That's, again, on September 27th. Tickets are free. Our partners at the library do tell us that a bunch of them already were reserved the first day we announced, so if you want to make sure you have a spot, I would go right now. You can go to wnyc.org/getlit to grab your free tickets.

David Furst: Okay, wnyc.org/getlit. Did I remember that correctly?

Jordan Lauf: You did. You nailed it.

David Furst: Let's start with some fiction before moving on to nonfiction today with your recommendations. Up first for contemporary fiction is the second novel from C Pam Zhang. This is called Land of Milk and Honey. What is this one about?

Jordan Lauf: This one is out September 26th. Unlike her first novel, C Pam Zhang's first novel was a historical fiction. This one is sort of near-futuristic novel. It said, unfortunately, in the era of climate change that we're all living through, where food shortage has gotten much worse. There's smog, it's hard for people to get fresh air. The protagonist of this book is a chef, who is finding it very hard, obviously, to work and perfect her art under conditions where people aren't able to get food, get water, get the ingredients that she would like.

She takes the Devil's bargain, maybe you would say, by taking a job in an elite circle, an elite mountain community where they have access to all these fresh ingredients because they can pay for it. They have fresh water. They have the types of vegetables and fruits that the chef has been dreaming of working with. She gets to really experiment and grow her craft in this elite mountain community, but she also has to consider what are the moral implications of making this choice to remove herself from the struggles of everyday people and live and cook for the ultra-elite.

David Furst: No access to this mountain community, I'm guessing, for the common folk?

Jordan Lauf: No, it's a very elite group.

David Furst: Okay, that sounds fascinating. What's the name of the book once again?

Jordan Lauf: That one is called Land of Milk and Honey, and it is out September 26th.

David Furst: Speaking of the culinary arts, it seems that your next novel recommendation also features food.

Jordan Lauf: Yes. I think food is on the brain for a lot of people between the menu and the bear. People are eager for this kind of culinary literature.

David Furst: People like food.

Jordan Lauf: Yes, people like food. Who would have thought? The next one I'm recommending is Family Meal by Bryan Washington. He is one of our most talented young writers coming up today. He wrote Memorial, which I believe came out either last year or the year before. This new one is on October 10th. It is about a man who is haunted by the ghost of his dead partner. His longtime partner has passed away. He's haunted by his ghost or maybe just his memory, and he's struggling with addiction. In this very difficult period of time for the protagonist, he starts to get closer with his cousin TJ. TJ owns a local bakery, hence where the connection to food comes from. It's about his struggles, dealing with grief, his struggles dealing with his addiction, but also the joy that he finds in learning the ins and outs of what goes into a bakery.

David Furst: Hmm, both books really focus on adversity and food.

Jordan Lauf: Adversity and food, exactly.

David Furst: Diversity and food. Up next, you're recommending a book that-- This almost sounds like the plot of a Freaky Friday, or am I reading too much into this? It's called People Collide by Isle McElroy. Tell us about this book.

Jordan Lauf: This one comes out September 26. I think Freaky Friday is a good way to explain it. It follows a husband and wife who through some incident swap bodies. The husband ends up in the wife's body, the wife ends up in her husband's body, but the wife takes off and disappears and seems to decide to live her life as Ely, as her husband, in this male body.

When the husband leaves to go search for his wife and his wife's body, it leads him to start thinking about his own gender, his own feelings about masculinity, and maybe start to question some things. Isle themselves is a non-binary writer and their first novel, The Atmospherians, which we interviewed them about on the show, also talked about gender that was about a cult to reform men. It was a very interesting and wild read. I recommend that one as well. I'm very excited for this follow-up and how they tackle gender through this body swap [crosstalk].

David Furst: That sounds fascinating and very different than the jokey Freaky Friday references at the beginning.

Jordan Lauf: No, I think there'll be some serious themes explored.

David Furst: Now, that it's called People Collide by Isle McElroy. Finally, you're recommending the latest from Mona Awad. This one is called Rouge. Tell us about this book.

Jordan Lauf: If people haven't read Mona Awad's books before, I would say she's the master of these fairytale-like stories. They all have a mystical quality to them. For example, her last novel, I think it was her last novel, Bunny, which I loved was about a sorority, where the sorority sisters turned into rabbits at night. They all read like modern fairy tales. This new one, Roug,e is about a magical mirror and a culty spa, a wellness spa and retreat that may have led to the death of the protagonist's mother.

The protagonist is trying to find out what's happened to her mother. She goes to the spa to investigate this mirror and figure out what it is that's set her mother up on this path towards death, unfortunately, and she also becomes entranced with this magical mirror herself. I think it promises to be a takedown of wellness culture, another freaky tale. I don't want to spoil too much, but I'll just say, watch this space for maybe an announcement about some exciting news regarding All Of It and Mona Awad.

David Furst: Very cool. We're getting calls from you. We'd like to hear from you this hour. What is a book that you have read recently that you really recommend, or maybe something that you're looking forward to reading this fall? We want to hear your recommendations. The number 212-433-9692. That's 212-433-WNYC. We're getting calls right now. Let's hear from Andrew in South Orange. Good afternoon.

Andrew: Good afternoon. Hello, can you hear me okay?

David Furst: Oh, absolutely. What would you recommend?

Andrew: I would recommend a memoir of teaching in China for a year and getting caught in the pandemic in the middle. It's called the Same Bright Moon: Teaching China's New Generation During COVID. It's by Wendy Bashant, who has long been a dean at various US universities, and before that was an English professor. She went to Central Xi'an in the middle of 2019 to teach a rather elite Chinese students at a kind of MIT equivalent school, but to teach them American literature and writing. She formed some very deep connections with a lot of young Chinese students. She made them think in different ways. The memoir records both their class discussion and the papers that they wrote. Yes, I'm sorry?

David Furst: You said that's called The Same Bright Moon?

Andrew: The Same Bright Moon: Teaching China's New Generation During COVID. It's by Wendy Bashant, B-A-S-H-A-N-T.

David Furst: Andrew, thank you so much for that recommendation. We'd also like to hear from Trudy in Brooklyn. Good afternoon. What would you suggest?

Trudy: Hi. Thank you for all you do. I'm so thrilled to be here. I want to recommend American Prometheus. Oh, my God. I read it twice. It was really so exciting. I'm 80 years old. I remembered some of the names referenced and that's what got me hooked because when I was young, I couldn't care less about government or anything else that was going on. It's filled in the blanks. Mr. Oppenheimer is definitely more exciting than any fictional character. I highly recommend it. It was really something.

David Furst: He is the subject of this book?

Trudy: Yes.

David Furst: Now, do I have it right that you read this book twice this summer? Is this correct?

Trudy: Yes.

Jordan Lauf: Oh, my goodness.

David Furst: That's the mark of a good book right there.

Trudy: Yes. Like I said, when I started, these names started popping up that I remembered from my youth. I thought, "Oh, wow." I really didn't know anything about them. That's what really got me hooked. As I said, in addition to the subject of the book, himself being a very interesting human being. The book just has everything. It has suspense, it has romance. It has all kinds of-- I just highly recommend it.

David Furst: Thank you so much for that recommendation, Trudy. Let's hear from another caller, Beth in Brooklyn. Thank you for joining us. What would you suggest for a book we to consider?

Beth: Oh, thanks so much for taking my call. This is a great segment. Like all good books in Brooklyn, I picked it up on the stoop. It's called, The Widow Clicquot. It's about Barbe-nicole Clicquot, the woman who created Clicquot Champagne, Veuve Clicquot. It's fascinating. She grew up in the late 1700s, early 1800s, and started the business, because she was a widow, she was allowed to. Upper-class women at that time were not allowed to own their own businesses in France. She navigated multiple wars, Napoleon, and everything else to keep this company going. I had no idea. It was a very light, frothy read, just like her champagne.

David Furst: [chuckles] That's wonderful. Thank you so much for that recommendation. We're getting a lot of texts and calls. Also a text saying, "Hey, All Of It listeners who love the theater, you might want to read, Public/Private: My Life with Joe Papp at the Public Theater by Gail Merrifield Papp, out October 17th. The author began working at the precursor of the Public Theater in 1965, developing new plays. She and Joe Papp were married from 1975 till he died in 1991." A warm-hearted memoir. Thank you very much for that text. We'll get to more of your calls. If you'd like to join the discussion, 212-433-9692, call or text us. The number, again, 212-433-WNYC. Jordan, can we speak about historical fiction? There's a lot coming out this fall.

Jordan Lauf: Yes, I would love to. I really like historical fiction, especially if you want something that feels-- if life today feels a little bit overwhelming, maybe you can jump to the past and find some new things that will inspire you and transport you there.

David Furst: First, we have a new one from literary superstar, Zadie Smith. Is she going to be on the show next week?

Jordan Lauf: She will be on the show next week.

David Furst: Wow.

Jordan Lauf: Probably here in studio. That's very exciting.

David Furst: Very exciting. What's this latest book all about?

Jordan Lauf: This new one is called The Fraud. I believe it's her first foray into historical fiction ever. I won't spend too long talking about it since it's such a big book, but it is based on a real-life court case from 19th century Britain. It is about a white woman and a formerly enslaved man who both bond over their shared fascination with this court case. The court case is about a man who claims to be the long-lost heir to a literary fortune. He goes to the courts and says he needs to inherit all this money from this author who's died.

In reality, it seems that this man was a butcher and a total scam artist. This white woman and this formerly enslaved man come together and bond over their love of this case, their interest in this case. It's sort of like a true crime podcast, I guess, but in 19th-century England. The book goes into their lives and the differences and the experiences they had of Britain, obviously, as a white woman and someone who experienced slavery in that country. She's one of our best writers. That should be a must-read for people.

David Furst: When is that available?

Jordan Lauf: I believe it's already out. I believe it's out this week.

David Furst: Oh, it's out now? Okay. While we're on the subject of historical fiction, Miriam in Long Beach, do you have a recommendation?

Miriam: Yes, I do.

David Furst: Thank you for joining us.

Miriam: Can you hear me?

David Furst: Yes, we can hear you.

Miriam: Yes. Hi, I'm Miriam Bradman Abraham, and there is a book out called Incident at San Miguel. It came out end of May by A. J. Sidransky, an award-winning author of historical fiction books. This book is about my family's experience as Cuban-Jewish refugees. My grandparents, refugees from Poland and Belarus, and then being in Cuba during the revolution, 1959. My father and his brother fictionalized because they were 40 years of noncommunication due to politics between the US and Cuba. The author creatively filled in those 40 years.

It's really relevant to today. It's about immigration, about hardship with language, with adjusting to a new land. It's about two brothers who were on opposite sides of revolution, ideologically, and their relationship, and how the whole Cuba revolution tore families apart. There's been stories told about Russia and other countries, and now we hear a lot about Ukraine and families separated, but this happened only 60 years ago in an island closest to the US, 90 miles from the US.

David Furst: That's right.

Miriam: We know very well about it.

David Furst: Thank you so much for taking the time and giving us that recommendation. This is All Of It on WNYC. We're getting a lot of calls 212-433-9692. I want to hear from Barbara. Hello, Barbara, calling from Rockville Center. Is that right?

Barbara: Yes. Hi, how are you?

David Furst: Hello.

Barbara: I spent a good part of my summer reading A Covenant of Water by Verghese and it was, or it is, an extraordinary book. One of the reasons it took me so long to read was that I kept putting it down because there were some parts where I get so emotionally involved in what I was reading. I had to put it away from me for a while. When I picked it up again, it steamrolled at me. It really did. I spent five or six weeks going through 750 pages. It's a big book, but it spans generations in India, a story of an Indian family in India. It has all the wonderful elements that you want when you're reading a book, which is surprise, and well-formed characters, and the location. I highly recommend it. He also wrote Cutting for Stone, and if people haven't read that, that's another one. That's really quite wonderful.

Jordan Lauf: I read The Covenant of Water this year. I loved it also. The thing about Abraham Verghese is that he spent most of his career before being a writer as a doctor. There's also a lot of really detailed medical stuff in this book that I found very fascinating. It takes place among a minority Christian community in India, which is something I hadn't learned about before. I really felt like I learned some new things as well as being swept along by this epic story. I definitely recommend it as well.

David Furst: We are going to have more book recommendations from All Of It's own, Jordan Lauf, and from you in just a moment. Don't go away. This is All Of It on WNYC.

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David Furst: We're speaking with All Of It and Get Lit book club producer, Jordan Loft, getting some recommendations for fall reading. We're hearing from you as well. If you want to join the discussion, 212-433-9692. That is 212-433-WNYC. Next, coming up, Jordan, a very highly anticipated book from one of our most celebrated contemporary authors, Jesmyn Ward, her first novel since 2017's Sing, Unburied, Sing. This new one is titled Let Us Descend. What is this about?

Jordan Lauf: I couldn't be more excited for this one. This one is out October 24th. It tells the story of an enslaved woman in America who is sold south by her white father. As she travels down south, as she descends, as the title suggests, she thinks about the lives of her mother and of her grandmother who was an African warrior. Also, along the journey, she begins to encounter some spiritual powers. There is an element of mysticism and magical realism included in this book as well. Jesmyn is known for tackling some really hard topics, some really difficult things in her writing, but her writing is always so lyrical and beautiful that it makes even a really difficult read feel worth it.

David Furst: We're getting so many calls. I want to get to some more of your recommendations. Let's hear from Francine in Clifton, New Jersey. Hello. Good afternoon.

Francine: Hello. Can you hear me?

David Furst: Yes. What would you suggest we pay attention to this fall?

Francine: I have two [inaudible 00:21:58]. This is not a new book, but if you can find it at your library, which is where I found mine, they're giving it away for free. It's called Magic Time by Kit Reed. This book, I picked it up because I love sci-fi fantasy. However, this book was published in 1980, but it so much like what's going on today. In the land of Happy Habitat, each person-- [crosstalk]

David Furst: Oh, your phone is breaking up just a little bit. Maybe just talk a little bit closer to the phone. It's called Magic Time, right?

Francine: Magic Time by Kit Reed. Originally published in 1980. It reflects so much the divisions of our society right now. You can take a vacation at Happy Habitat on your own [unintelligible 00:22:46]. If you take that vacation, you can command, pay for whatever type of fantasy you provide. Now, the people who are providing the fantasy at Happy Habitat, they are people who have given up on life.

David Furst: We're going to have to leave it there just because the phone connection is a little tough to make out, but thank you so much for that recommendation. Let's hear from Jone in Port Chester, New York. Jone, welcome to All Of It. Do you have a book recommendation for this fall? Oh, we don't have Jone. We'll get to another call in just a moment, but while we're waiting for the next call, I wanted to ask you about another historical fiction piece. This is one you're recommending a new novel called, I hope I'm saying it correctly, Chenneville by Paulette Jiles. This is coming out September 12th.

Jordan Lauf: Yes. If the audio book narrator is to be believed, it is Chenneville. It's a fictional place though, I believe. Paulette Jiles is the author of News of the World, which some of you might know either the novel or the movie that was adapted starring Tom Hanks. She is no stranger to portraying Antebellum America, and this book is no different. This one follows a union soldier who becomes bent on revenge when he comes home after the war to find that his sister's family has been brutally murdered and he has to track down the man who did it. It's a tale of revenge. I do think the thing that's nice is that sometimes historical fiction novels are really long, really fat. This one's pretty short. If you're looking for something that's an escape but isn't going to hurt your back as you're carrying it on the subway, that's a good one to pick up.

David Furst: Something that's not going to hurt your back.

Jordan Lauf: Yes, exactly.

David Furst: We have another recommendation. Lou in Staten Island. Lou, thank you for joining us. Do you have a book you want to recommend? Lou in Staten Island?

Lou: Yes, and thank you for taking my call. Mine was written back in 2012. It is called Why Nations Fail. This is about policy making and how we got to where we are now. It bridges from Colombia to Sierra Leone, to Zimbabwe back to South Africa, and here in the United States. It is economics and it's mostly talking about policy making. It's called Why Nations Fail. The book is so good that when my neighbor borrowed it and took a long time returning it, I told him to keep it and I'll buy one for myself. I'm telling you that's how good it's. It is called Why Nations Fail. The authors are Daron--

Jordan Lauf: I haven't read that one. I just got one that sounds very similar called Collapse by Jared Diamond, which I think is about how civilizations fail. If you liked that one, I think this one might be a good one to pick up, too. I'm laughing at you lending a book to your neighbor and thinking they weren't going to return it, because when I lend books to my grandmother, I put post-it notes all over it that say, "Jordan's book must return. Do not give to anyone else", because she loves to give the books away.

Lou: That's how good the book is. Folks, it's called Why Nations Fail, particularly those who want to go into policy.

David Furst: Why Nations Fail. Lou, thank you so much for that recommendation. Let's hear from Terry in Melbourne. Terry, welcome to All Of It.

Terry: Thank you very much. It's a pleasure.

David Furst: What would you suggest?

Terry: I would suggest the audio book of Anne Patchett's latest Tom Lake because it's read by Meryl Streep, and it is such a treat. I listen to a lot of audio books, I read a lot, and sometimes I like one over the other. With Covenant of Water, I preferred the audiobook. It was 31 hours. I loved The Heaven & Earth Grocery Store, I preferred reading it. I was not happy with the narrator and his pronunciation. I loved the book because it's about, again, like Deacon King Kong 2 ethnic groups and how they get along and their stories. It's fascinating. Then the most recent book I read, which is not that new, but I do recommend it, is The Exceptions. It took me a long time to get it from the library, about the women at MIT who fought to be recognized as equal to their male counterparts.

Jordan Lauf: I just want to jump in second, Tom Lake. I think that's the best book I've read so far this year. I didn't listen to the audiobook, but when she was on the show, she did tell us that Meryl Streep was going to be narrating it, which is so exciting. If you haven't picked up Tom Lake by Ann Patchett, I think's one of her best.

Terry: I got it because of your show.

Jordan Lauf: Oh, I'm so glad to hear that.

Terry: I'm a big fan, and hearing that she wrote it because during COVID, she had her adult children home, really piqued my interest. I love her. I loved The Dutch House and many of her other books. I was very excited to get it. Listening to it was, as I say, such a treat. I hope there's a movie and she stars it.

David Furst: [laughs] Terry, thank you so much for your call. If you would like to join the discussion, 212-433-9692. That's 212-433-WNYC. Jordan, let's talk about some non-fiction coming out in the coming months. For fans of history, you're recommending the new book from Mary Beard. What's this one about?

Jordan Lauf: I am a history, a non-fiction nerd. I think more people should be reading history. More people should be reading nonfiction. I'm so glad to hear so many of our callers actually recommend non-fiction. That makes me happy. Mary Beard, if you don't know, is the author of SPQR, which is considered to be one of the best books about ancient Rome. Ancient Rome is her specialty, and this new one is called Emperor of Rome: Ruling the Ancient Roman World. It's due out October 24th.

It's exactly what it sounds. It's diving into the history of all Roman emperors and also what that position meant in the political context of ancient Rome. I find ancient history so fascinating, and she's one of the writers who makes it really accessible for people. I think if you're really interested in Nero and Caesar, and all that good stuff, this will be a good one for you to pick up.

David Furst: Another quick recommendation, a history of sorts, but also mixed with science and health. This is the new book from Cat Bohannon.

Jordan Lauf: Yes, this one is titled Eve: How the Female Body Drove 200 Million Years of Human Evolution. It's out October 3rd. It's, again, what the title sounds. It's a history of how the female body has changed, developed, and is understood throughout history. Tackle some big topics and explains things like, for example, how did women start being able to produce breast milk? Why do we experience menopause? It also looks at the ways that healthcare often has failed women over the years and still continues to, the way that doctors still don't often fully understand women's bodies and women's health, and just the inequities that exist in that system. It's also definitely very readable for people who aren't deep in the sciences. It's something that you can pick up and dive into without a bunch of prior knowledge.

David Furst: Oh boy, we are running out of time, but we have so many books here. Texts coming through right now book recommendations, Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmus. Our text says, "Superb, funny, infuriating look at sex discrimination set in the early '60s." Another text just read, "Salt Houses by Hala Alyan, a moving and beautifully written novel about scattered generations of a Palestinian family's diaspora. Actually heard about it on NPR, wasn't disappointed." Thank you for those recommendations. Let's hear from Hilda calling in from Forest Hills. Good afternoon. What have you been reading?

Hilda: Hi, I've been reading most of the books already identified, and they've been wonderful thanks to Alison's Get Lit Show. I have read Signal Fires by Dani Shapiro. It's a small book that can be read in one day. It's a beautiful book with a very realistic, happy ending. I am also very much looking forward to going to the Mcbride book discussion later this month. I've got my tickets. I'm excited about all these books. They're wonderful. Get Lit and Alison got me through reading online through the pandemic. I thank her and I thank you.

Jordan Lauf: Oh, that makes me so happy to hear. Thanks so much for that. We worked really hard on it. We hope that people love it. We're so excited to have you join us in person in just a couple weeks.

David Furst: When is that event?

Jordan Lauf: That is September 27th and you can get your free tickets like Hilda, our caller, at wnyc.org/getlit.

David Furst: I think we have time for one more caller here. Joan from Port Chester. Good afternoon. What would you suggest?

Joan: Hi. Thank you for taking my call. I'm calling about a non-fiction book called, It Was Always a Choice: Picking Up the Baton of Athlete Activism. It was written by David Steele. David Steele is a sports writer, and he also wrote about Tommie Smith's and John Carlos's activism during the 1968 Olympics. It was always a choice. It's a really great book because it actually talks about the choices that athletes make. Whether they choose to become involved in social justice issues or not, it's always a choice. He takes it from as far back as Paul Robeson to today, and certainly includes the activism of Colin Kaepernick. It's a comprehensive look, but it's not heavy, and it's a real great read if you want to just learn about all of the different ways in which athletes have chosen to step up or not.

David Furst: Again, that's called Always a Choice, right Joan?

Joan: It Was Always a Choice: Picking Up the Baton of Athlete Activism.

David Furst: Joan, thank you so much for that recommendation. Jordan, I guess you should finish off with one more recommendation. What would you say?

Jordan Lauf: I know if I only have time to mention one last book, I want to talk about A Man of Two Faces. This comes out October 3rd. It's a memoir. We haven't touched on memoir yet. This one is from author Viet Thanh Nguyen, who you may know as a novelist. He wrote The Sympathizer, which won the 2016 Pulitzer Prize for fiction. It's also going to be an HBO miniseries, which I think comes out next year.

This memoir is about his life as a young Vietnamese refugee who came to this country with his parents when he was very young, and also goes into their experience of adjusting to life in America and a horrible incident in which his parents were actually shot at the grocery store that they owned in California, and how his family sort of dealt with that trauma, and his feelings of statelessness and rootlessness of being not quite Vietnamese, not quite American, somewhere in between. I think a feeling that is common for a lot of immigrants to this country or first-generation kids. He is just an incredible speaker, an incredible author. I think that's going to be one people are going to want to pick up this fall.

David Furst: A great mix of recommendations. We're all scribbling furiously. I think you've planned our fall and our winters. Jordan, thank you very much.

Jordan Lauf: Thanks for having me, and thanks to all of our callers. It's always so fun to hear what you guys are reading,

David Furst: All Of It, and Get Lit Bookclub producer, Jordan Lauf, thank you very much for all the recommendations.

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