How to Appreciate Your Houseplants this Winter

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Today is National Houseplant Appreciation Day. Naturally, it is time to talk plants. Plant Doctor Christopher Satch returns to the show to hear about your favorite houseplants and answer any questions about winter plantcare.
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Alison Stewart: This is All Of It on WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart. Hey, if you're looking for something to do this weekend, check out some of the conversations we had on the show this week. There are a lot of great art exhibits. We spoke about four of them on Monday's show. Works at the Guggenheim, the Jewish Museum, the Museum of the City of New York, and the Gordon Parks Foundation. If you don't want to brave the cold weather and want to stay in and binge something, check out Shrinking on Apple TV+. You can check out our conversations with one of its stars, Michael Urie. The NYC Jazz Fest is happening, Orrin Evans playing this weekend. He performed live in WNYC Studio 5. You can check out that conversation. In other words, there's a lot going on this weekend. Head to our show page at wnyc.org to get inspiration.
Now, let's get this hour started with the Plant Doctor.
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Happy Houseplant Appreciation Day, everyone. Take pride in your pothos, be extra nice to your monstera, and sprinkle a little extra something on your succulents. In the dead of winter, houseplants can use all the love they can get. We're going to talk now about how to make how to best care for your houseplants and how to make sure they're healthy and happy.
Chris Satch is a professor at the New York Botanical Gardens. He also has his own plant consultancy business called NYC Plant Help. You might know him as the Plant Doctor. Yes, he makes house calls. He's here in studio to help us out with our green thumbs. It's really nice to see you again.
Chris Satch: Nice to see you again too.
Alison: Listeners, if you have something that you would like to ask Chris Satch about your plants, you can give us a call. 212-433-9692, 212-433-WNYC. Or you can hit us up on our social media at All Of It WNYC. While we wait for the plants to come on in, I'm going to ask you a few questions. We just passed the winter solstice. The days got a little longer sunlight, each and every day a little bit. Do plants know they've passed this threshold?
Chris: They do, actually. Without getting too technical, the plants have various proteins inside of them that sense actually red light. They determine the length of the day by sensing the red light and they determine whether or not they're shaded by sensing far red versus red light. As the days get longer, they do have a way of knowing, hey, the days are getting longer. Also they do photosynthesize. They do eat the light.
Alison: I was going to say, what do they do with that information?
Chris: They photosynthesize and they get more food because they collect the sun's energy. With an increase of sugar inside of the plant as well as an increase of the red light that's available to them, they know that the days are getting longer. That triggers various reactions within the plants.
Alison: It's getting colder, though. Even though it's necessarily brighter, it's still pretty chilly out there, as we have seen from this week. At this point, how should we think about pacing of our plant care?
Chris: In the wintertime, as it gets cooler maybe you're in a pre-warm apartment, maybe you're in an apartment that's not as well insulated, you want to be careful around cold drafts. You want to be careful around-- As the days are still short and it is cool, that means that your plants won't dry out as quickly as they would have otherwise.
The flip side is also if you have your heat blasting, you may be watering more often, versus if you have a chilly apartment, you may be watering less often. Because there's a lot less light, most folks will be watering actually a lot less frequently than they would. Caveat, of course, is if you have really hot apartment, you will probably still be watering a lot more often.
Alison: The sun on the whole is lower in the sky. Depending on your windows, that might mean a dramatically different natural light happening at this time.
Chris: Yes and no. For the plants that are a little further in the room, which I usually don't recommend placing them there, they'll get a lot more direct hit because the sun is lower in the sky, it is coming further into the room. For the plants that are in the window, they're just happy being in the window.
Alison: Do you have any clever tips to take that sun change into account? Is it moving them all to the window?
Chris: I always advocate for shoving all your plants into a window.
Alison: Let's take a call. Karen from Manhattan on line 2. Hi, Karen. Thanks for calling in. What's your question?
Karen: Hi. I thank you for the expertise. I have phalaenopsis orchids. Too many of the roots are out of the pot. I assume I have to repot them. I want to know when is the best time to do so and what medium would you recommend?
Chris: Anytime is a good time for repotting most things. If your orchid is not in bloom anymore, if your phalaenopsis orchid is not in bloom anymore, then I would say go ahead and repot. Just keeping in mind that phalaenopsis are epiphytes. That means that they grow on tops of other plants like trees and rocks and things, so they don't really have access to soil. You'll notice their roots are very different from other plant roots. They're a lot thicker.
They turn green as soon as water drops on them. They turn from silver to green. That's them absorbing the water, because living on the side of a tree, you got to grab as much of the water as you can before it rolls off. Repot it into a nice orchid bark mix. It's mostly cedar bark chips with some charcoal, maybe a little perlite, maybe a little sphagnum moss. They sell pre-made mixes. You would just replant into that and you would water as you would once or twice a week. Most orchids like it twice a week, as long as they're in that well drained medium.
Alison: This says, my giant umbrella plant suddenly started drying up and dropping leaves. I've changed nothing in my care. Help.
Chris: It could be from just the change of the seasons and not adjusting your care with the change of the seasons. I think that's what's happening.
Alison: How many plants do you estimate that you'd care for in your house?
Chris: In my house?
Alison: Yes.
Chris: This is going to make me sound-- I have 300 plants.
Alison: Do you have a spreadsheet? How do you keep things organized?
Chris: They all have their little tags. Most of them are tiny. I have vivarium tanks and things like that where I just set the spritzers and the sprinklers. It's like those frog enclosures and I just repurpose a frog enclosure and it comes with the kit when you buy it from the pet store. I just slap it together and throw everything inside.
Alison: What tools would you recommend to people for them to have on hand that they can make plant care easier or even take it to the next level?
Chris: That's a good question, actually. What I would say is always have a watering can that measures to one gallon. Because when you are fertilizing or when you're mixing a fungicide or a pesticide, insecticide, whatever, you'll need to know exactly what a gallon is because all the instructions on those labels are so many teaspoons or tablespoons per gallon. Definitely have a gallon. Also have all those things too. You'll want to have a little bit of fungicide, you'll want a little bit of some insecticidal soap.
I know a lot of people have talked about neem oil. I am not a proponent of neem oil. Neem oil doesn't work. Neem oil makes your plants sticky, it smells bad, and it doesn't really work. Don't do it. I don't know who big neem is, but they've been getting around lately. Insecticidal soap is the better solution. You'll want some of that. Fertilizer, I like the liquid fertilizer. If you don't have as much light, maybe a plant light.
Alison: How important is it to make sure your potting soil is fresh?
Chris: Pretty important. Pretty important. When it comes to potting soil, you have to take it as it goes. Potting soil is actually not earthen soil at all. There's no earth or minerals in that soil. It's actually digested peat, the same peat, peat moss. They mix it with perlite, the little white things, and they mix it with a couple of other things, maybe some coconut coir.
Over time, it will degrade because it itself is organic, 100% or nearly 100%. You'll want to watch for signs of, maybe your plant gets too big for the pot and it's tipping over. Maybe your plant just starts to decline for absolutely no reason. That could have been what happened to that schefflera. It was in the same soil. I always say repot every couple of years. Repot when the plant gets too big for its pot. If you start to see or smell, it turns into this silty, dark black consistency. Once it starts doing that, that's a sign.
Alison: Help. My 37 plus houseplants have been infected by spider mites. I tried neem and systemic and they are still fighting it. It's like a preschool over here. As soon as one recovers, another one develops an absolute sweater of mites.
Chris: Everyone with a larger collection tends to have some pest here, there, but not all the time. When it comes to spider mites, you can spray for them. Systemics won't work against spider mites just because of the way that they feed. Spider mites actually go to individual cells and rip the cells open and drink the cell guts. That's different from a systemic, which goes through the vascular system of the plant.
Systemics work best against things that are sap feeders, like aphids, like scale bugs, like mealy bugs, things like that. For spider mites, you either have to use insecticidal soap to spray them down. Or recently, I've had really good success with my own collection. I've actually gotten rid of spider mites from all of my plants by using beneficial mites.
You can order beneficial mites, or they call them predatory mites. There are other mites that eat the spider mites and they search and destroy because they are hungry and that's all they eat. Bugs are great like that because they're sort of programmed to only do one thing. Those predatory mites will go after the spider mites and eliminate them. They will search and destroy.
Alison: We are celebrating National Houseplant Appreciation Day with Chris Satch, AKA the Plant Doctor. If you have a question, give us a call. 212-433-WNYC, 212-433-9692, or hit us up on social media at All Of It WNYC. Let's talk to David, who's calling in from the Upper West Side with his dogs, apparently. Hey, David.
David: Sorry about that. We're actually on a walk right now. Quick question. Somebody gave me a Venus flytrap and never had any plans for a carnivorous houseplant. Had plenty of others. I've done what I switched it to half perlite, half peat moss. It's in a regular plastic container. It has some distilled water underneath it to humidify the area around it. It's feeding it once a month. It seems to be dying, but I know they also enter a state of dormancy. How can you tell the difference?
Chris: Venus flytraps generally don't have a real dormancy. They just stop doing stuff. They don't actually really die back. At least a lot of the ones that they sell. You are already in a good spot by using distilled and/or rainwater for them because they are very salt sensitive, because the natural environments they come from are bogs, which have no mineral content.
Even tap water in a lot of places will make them turn black and die. When a plant's leaves turn black, that's a salt problem. Now you said that you fed it once a month. Now that's the problem. These creatures evolved in bogs where they have to wait a really long time for a bug to be silly enough to trigger the trap. Even with your finger, you have to try hard to make the traps go off. They don't really consume that as many bugs as people think they do in nature or in your home.
I think that you might be overfeeding it, especially if it's turning black as well, and you are using the distilled water from-- You can buy them in gallons from the drugstore. Just make sure it's distilled and not filtered or purified or anything. It has to be distilled like the same kind, mineral free water that you would use in small household appliances.
Alison: Got a lot of questions about potting soil. What is the difference between regular potting soil and succulent potting soil? I have some succulents in regular potting soil. They seem fine, but should I repot them with specialized soil? Somebody wants to know, hey, is that soil I get at the hardware store good enough?
Chris: You're going to like this answer. They just add sand. There's not really a difference other than they add a little more gravel, a little more sand and call it a day. You can take regular potting soil and plant your succulents in there. I do that. I don't even bother with any specialized soil. If you want to, you can add sand or whatever you like. They're not very picky.
Alison: Let's talk to Anya from Carol Gardens. Hi, Anya.
Anya: Hi. Thank you so much. I have a polka dot begonia that's maybe about five years old and about one foot tall. It bounces back in the summer. It definitely dies back a bit in the winter. At the moment though, its leaves are half brown and dropping. It seems like it's just dying full stop. We do have a north facing apartment, so we don't get a ton of light, but I worry about the cold and I worry about the balance of soil versus humidity versus light. What can I do to make sure it lives a happy life.
Chris: When it comes to humidity, begonias don't really care that much about humidity. Some of them do, but not the polka dot one. That one doesn't really care as long as you're watering it properly because most of the water goes into the plant through the roots, you're fine. I would check all those conditions that you mentioned to me too, like is there a cold draft on it? Begonias really don't like it cold. They actually prefer it on the hot side. Maybe it is a little chilly.
You mentioned you lived in a north facing apartment and you have seen this pattern where in the summertime days are longer, more light, it's more robust, it grows back and then in the wintertime it gets sad and it dies back. That's expected. If it's full out dying, check the soil, maybe it needs to be repotted. Actually, how long has it been since you repotted?
Anya: I think I repotted it about a year ago.
Chris: Then the soil is fresh enough. Then maybe check is there a new cold draft. Something else must have changed, or perhaps-- Actually no, it's been only a year so it wouldn't have totally run out of nutrients by now. I would go for the cold draft and see how that is. Just make sure you're giving it as much light as you can.
Alison: We have a lot of questions about water. We'll start with just one and then we'll go from there. Frank is on line 5 from Montclair. Hi, Frank.
Frank: Hi there. Thank you for taking my call today. I'm just curious about whether or not it's better to use filtered water versus tap water. I was told there was an issue with one of my indoor plants that completely shifted. Actually, in fact it died. I'm just wondering about that. I've been doing the filtered water thing now for about three or four months and it seems to hold.
One other little tiny question is about the over counter of plant foods which you know are liquid and you just use a little pump. Should you bother with that, or, obviously it's in the soil. If you use the miracle grow soil for six months, I guess you should change it. Anyway, those are my questions today. I look forward to your answers.
Chris: Those are great questions and they're related. I'm going to give a longish answer. When it comes to water, unless you are living in a well water area, or your public source of water is really what we call hard water, means it's mineral-rich, means there's a lot of minerals in it. Generally you don't have to worry unless it's that. If it is hard water or if it is from the groundwater, you do have to worry because those salts will build up over time and they will poison.
Not poison, but they'll salt out the plant. It'll get a little too salty. Most tap water is fine. Here in New York City, your New York City tap water is absolutely fine. I'm taken aback when some people start using bottled water for their plants. I'm like, "New York City water is the greatest water in the world." Even in most parts of New Jersey where you're at, the tap water is absolutely perfectly fine. I would just save the money, use the tap water, keep the filtered or other kinds of water for yourself.
Now, when it comes to fertilizer, fertilizers are salts. You want a very well balanced fertilizer for most of your things. Now, keep in mind, you're not exactly growing vegetables when we're talking about houseplants, we're talking about slow growing tropical plants that take their time to do things. We call it plant food, but it's really not food. It's a plant vitamin.
Think of it as a multivitamin. Just like I don't have to take my multivitamin every day, I do. You don't have to fertilize your indoor plants all the time because they're going to absorb the nutrients very slowly and it'll take time for that soil to exhaust itself. For most intents and purposes, you can use whatever you like, although I prefer -- I'm not allowed. Am I allowed to--
Alison: You can if you believe in it.
Chris: Oh, I do believe in Dyna-Gro. Dyna-Gro is really great because it's one of the only fertilizers on the market that has calcium in it. Calcium is an essential mineral for cell walls. It actually helps keep your plants more robust against fungal attacks. For those of you worried about root rot.
Alison: We are talking about plants. We're going to talk pruning and propagation with Chris Satch, AKA the Plant Doctor after a quick break. This is All Of It.
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Alison: You are listening to All Of It on WNYC. I'm Alison Stewart. Hey, Happy National Houseplant Appreciation Day. We are celebrating with Chris Setch, AKA the Plant Doctor. If you have a question for him, give us a call, 212-433-WNYC. I love the idea that plants can b-- It can be something you do with other people as well. There are plant clubs all over the city.
Chris: Absolutely. There's a bunch of plant clubs. A lot of them will call themselves societies. That's just because those clubs have been around for so long that they didn't call themselves clubs back then. There's the Manhattan Orchid Society if you're into orchids. There's the Greater New York Chesnariad Society. There's the Cactus and Succulents Society, they're meeting pretty soon.
All these clubs have meetings at least once a month where you can take your plants, show your plants off, trade, swap, buy, sell, and do all kinds of things with planty people. I know, at least the Orchid Society and the Gesneriad Society, and I think the Cactus and Succulent Society too, once a month they'll also invite speakers, like professors and people who actually go into the jungles or the forests or the deserts. They do research on these plants. They're really great groups to join. I'm a part of almost all of them.
Alison: Let's talk about pruning and shaping and propagation. Some plants grow upwards, some produce these long runners that dangle. How does growing in these different directions change the way one, the plant takes its nutrients, and two, how we can set them up for success?
Chris: That's a really good question because based on how the plant is growing will determine how you really prune it, propagate it or treat it. When you're pruning something, what I would call like a basic structure, something that's tree like, it has a stem, it's got branches, it's got leaves, you can trim that almost however you like. Because there are what are called nodes all along that plant.
Like a rubber tree plant like Ficus elastica. You can cut that just about anywhere and force it to grow in any way you like. What's really nice about the semi-woody, bushy plants like that is you can actually bend and train those plants to grow in any direction you like. Now, keep in mind, the plant itself will always try to grow in the direction of the light. That's why if you don't really rotate your plants, they'll all just pancake themselves against the window.
For plants that are more runnery, I call them shamblers, they put runners along the ground. They shamble along, and they just creep and shamble. For those, if they're clumpy, you might want to split them apart. I just grab a fistful and I just rip it apart and I put one in one pot and one in the other pot, and now I have too many pots.
Alison: Let's talk to Jamie calling from the Upper West Side. Hi, Jamie.
Jamie: Hi. Can you hear me?
Alison: You're on the air. You better [crosstalk]
Jamie: Can you hear me?
Alison: There you go.
Jamie: Sorry about that. I have a very robust dracaena tree that I have to prune a lot because it's happy and grows. As an experiment, I recently cut off an extending branch and thought, "Let me just put it in water." I'd always thought you grow trees from seeds, but it appears off this branch that there's some furry beginning nascent root happening.
I'm not sure what it is. I just want to know if that's indeed the case and if I let it-- There's no spine like form forming. It's fluffy off, but in several nodes on the branch. Just curious what's happening and if I can ultimately put it in soil and make a new tree.
Chris: I mean dracaena, dracaen, you could say it either way. Those kinds of plants, when they propagate them and grow them in Hawaii in these massive plantations of house plants, a wild concept to think about, a plantation of houseplants. When they grow them there, that's exactly how they grow them. They propagate them because they don't really flower that often and they don't really go to seed that often. Most tropical plants, seeds actually take months and months and months to germinate.
Most of your houseplants are clones of clones of clones of clones of clones of some mother plant that they collected or started to grow years and years and years ago. Do be careful if you're water propagating, because I've noticed sometimes when I water propagate that there's this cloudiness coming off of it. It might be a root, but it's actually a water mold, a water fungus growing off that.
As long as you're changing the water every day or changing the water every other day, that shouldn't be the case. Then you'll start to see an actual fibrous, like a hairy root come out, like a white hair or an orange hair. Some dracaenas are orange. They have orange roots. Once the roots are about a couple inches long, that's when you can transfer it to soil.
Alison: What about when you're placing these various little plants that you've mismade or it's mismade, and you're in an apartment and you don't have the thermostat, so you have to open a window to make sure it's not boiling there, but it's not so great next to the window because now the window's open. Where should we place the plants in our New York city apartments?
Chris: Oh, I've lived that life. It's not fun for the plants. There's a couple of really interesting solutions you can do. The first solution is, instead of opening the bottom of the window like most of us are inclined to, open the top of the window because that way the cold air descends into the room and has a chance to mix with the warm or hot room before it even touches the plant. That's option one.
Option two is you could hang your plant in a window such that it's out of the way of the breeze. It's okay if it gets a little chilly, as long as it's not blowing on the plant. You can hang the plant in the window. That's option two if you have that luxury. Option three, which I used to do actually myself, they throw out these wine boxes from the liquor stores and wine shops and things like that. What I did was I took these wine boxes, and you could take anything. I punched out the bottom so had a see-through frame, a wide frame to make a shelf.
I would stack a couple of them on top of the radiator case. You could see through them, and now you have shelves in your window, these boxes. You'd put your plants, one on each one, but obviously not right on top of the radiator. You don't want to do that, but maybe a couple of feet upwards, that heat has had enough time to dissipate. Now just beware that this might be one of those situations that you may be watering more often because the radiator's cooking it to death. Do pay attention to it and check on it a couple times a week. The fail safe is, if you can place your hand there and your hand is okay, your plant will be okay.
Alison: Let's talk to Angela from Mendham. Hi, Angela, you're on the air.
Angela: Yes, hi. Nice to be connected with all you great guys and all these wonderful questions.
Chris: Thank you.
Angela: Yes, I'm sorry. My question is, I have had in the past some success overwintering in the house gardenia. I always take a chance because the worst that could happen is it doesn't make it and I start all over again in the spring. I do have one, though, that is putting off nice, beautiful green leaves. There are actually quite a few buds on it. I want to keep that going. They're in an east window. They're getting beautiful morning light, very sunny there, surrounded by tons of other plants. There's a good amount of humidity there. I just want to keep this one going so it can bloom and give off that beautiful fragrance.
Alison: My grandmother had a gardenia plant. Oh, uptown. Anyway. Yes, go on.
Chris: It sounds like the plant is telling you that it's in a really good spot. If it's making buds, if it's making new leaves and leaves look great, and you're giving it the direct sun that it wants. Gardenias are very, blast it with as much sunlight as you physically possibly can, plants, there's no such thing as burning your plants. There's no such thing as too much sunlight when it comes to them. They want as much as possible. When you overwinter them indoors, I imagine you're you're taking it outside for the summer, and it grows really big in the summer, right?
Angela: Yes.
Chris: When you take it in, your biggest problem growing indoors, and most people's problems growing indoors is they don't get enough light and especially with a plant like that that needs a lot of light, just keep blasting it with as much light. You may want to invest in a plant light. They sell really great plant lights, the LED kinds. Don't get the ones that are purpley and whatever.
You just want the brightest plant light you possibly can. I, for my plants, I use vivo sunlights because it's a flat license plate thing, and I have an entire plant cart rack that I hang it from. I grow a bunch of things under it. Gardenia would do well under a plant light like that.
Alison: Thank you. Let's talk to Sharon from Piscataway. Hi, Sharon, you're on the air.
Sharon: Hi. Hi, how are you? Thank you so much for taking my call. Please help me save the life of my pony palm. I don't know the official name, but my understanding was it's supposed to be drought resistant. I have it in the house. I face southeast, so we get plenty of sun. The problem is it's getting this white powder-like substance inside the leaves, deep in and--
Chris: Like towards the center?
Sharon: Yes, towards the center. Now some of the leaves are falling off. I've tried to spray it with water and a little bit of dish detergent, I was told. For a little while it seemed like it was doing well, but now actually today I looked at it and said, "I don't know what to do."
Alison: What do you think, Chris?
Chris: That's a good one. What's going on there, it sounds like, and it's not in front of me, so I can't really see it, but it sounds like you have a mealybug infestation. Can I ask also, is the floor around it sticky or is there anything sticky around it?
Sharon: No, it doesn't sit on the floor. It sits on a plant stand. It sits in a plant stand. I moved it from right in front of the window with full sun to across the room where it still gets good sun. I'm hoping that that would do something. Then I was worried, did I over water it? Should I repot it?
Chris: No, no, no. This is more of a pest infestation. What you're going to want to do is-- You were doing the right thing, and you were, from what you were saying, seeing results with the dish soap. The dish soap, and this has to be plain, unscented dish soap with water is a bootleg insecticidal soap. I would get a good insecticidal soap from your local hardware store, Home Depot, Lowe's, wherever, and spray it down with that and just keep spraying and wiping them off until they all go away.
Now, if you get tired of doing that or they don't go away after you spray once a week for a couple of weeks, and they're still there, what I would do then is I would escalate to the next best thing, to something a little more hardcore, which would be to treat the plant with a systemic pesticide. They sell that in the garden section at Home Depot and Lowe's and all those garden places.
You would do that. That you would just mix with your watering can. Remember the one gallon watering can, like I mentioned earlier, have that because they have the measurements for what you'll need to do for that. I hope that that helps.
Alison: We get one more call in. Kevin from Brooklyn. Kevin, real quick.
Kevin: Oh, sure. I have [unintelligible 00:30:39] tree. It's a bonsai tree. I have these little bugs that are so small that you can barely see them unless you zoom in with a camera. They appear on the branches, the green branches, almost like a droplet that's appearing out of the branches at first. I see like red spots on them which I assume are maybe eggs. I was just wondering if there's anything that you know that I could do to get rid of these bugs. I'm not sure if they're inside the plant branches or what.
Alison: He wants the bugs gone.
Kevin: [crosstalk] Just have to get rid of them.
Alison: He'd like the bugs gone, please.
Chris: Bugs gone. Me too. What I recommend is actually taking the insecticidal soap, spraying it down with insecticidal soap. You can try that first. If that doesn't work, you can then try the predatory mites if it is indeed a mite. It sounds like it's a mite because they're really tiny and they crawl around the plant. Are you seeing any like damage to the leaves or anything, or is it just, hey, this is crawling with bugs.
Kevin: Some like indentations? Little almost like if you pressed a pen into the leave and it made a dent, like that.
Chris: Okay. Do you also see like CD scratches, like that damage too?
Kevin: Which scratches?
Chris: It looks like CD scratches as well? Do you see that as well on the plant?
Kevin: Yes.
Chris: Then you have thrips. Thrips are really annoying. They're what we call slash bugs. They slash into the cells. Unlike spider mites which do each one individual cell--
Alison: [unintelligible 00:32:18] deeds. Horrible.
Chris: They're very quick, they wiggle very fast. They're elusive. You really only know if you have thrips by seeing-- Their larvae, what you're seeing, the small ones you're seeing, they're tiny little crawlers or larvae. You can't see them really with the naked eye. You can only really tell if you have thrips by either the damage or by seeing an adult.
For thrips you will have to spray with the insecticidal soap. They do have predatory mites for thrips which work okay. You'll have to shop around and identify which mites those are. You could also go to nycplantdoctor.com and write in to me and I can help you there. I'll tell you which mites you'll need to get.
Alison: We could keep you here all day. Instead we'll invite you back real soon.
Chris: Fantastic.
Alison: Chris Satch is the Plant Doctor. Happy National Houseplant Appreciation Day to you.
Chris: Happy Houseplant Appreciation Day to you too.
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