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Good evening ladies and gentleman tonight international interview will again focus on the area that is high in the news the Middle East this evening that the N.Y.C. will spotlight Sudan one of the newest members of the United Nations we are privileged to have with us the distinguished Mohammed Ahmed mash who Minister of Foreign Affairs of Sudan and chairman of the Sudanese delegation to the United Nations here to question him our panel of news correspondents of the foreign press who introduce themselves. I am Paul standouts from head but all in Amsterdam The Netherlands. I am the daughter of wrong go form get caught in suit like Switzerland I bought the lifestyle of the abbot of Titan unity in Austria that's our first question for me Mr Sanders. Your Excellency just to Don it's one of the young members of the United Nations I read that there would be elections in your country in a short while back to back that have been possible. You know so could you explain the reason why and perhaps in that connection and fraud and likely not only of this battle but also all. Of the listeners to this point could you perhaps give us a short review me of the political structure of the suit. I'm assuming Sanders that there was not a date definitely fix it for the elections to take place it was attended to did that the elections will take place round about one thousand four to seven but before those solutions could be held the draft constitution which is in the hands of a national commission has to be completed. As well as the election electoral regulations and the compile ation of electoral votes if we could not have elections in EPROM then it is physically impossible to have them before November one thousand nine hundred forty fifty seven The reason being that from. Until November it would be practically impossible for elections to be held because of the weather conditions that it is season starts in the southern part of the Sudan. And in November in other parts of the Sudan starts to May or June and goes on until October this is the only reason for the delaying of elections the elections part of Parliament will sound elections for a constituent assembly which will discuss and enact the final constitution for the Sudan Republic meantime after this is done is considered a symbol it will turn itself into a House of Representatives which will be the parliament you have asked me into the area about the political setup in my country although my country is very young and so far as international affairs are concerned yet we have a background of democratic government which goes back to more than twenty five years democracy in my country starts from the base from the village council to the district council to the world the council the municipal council and the province council elections are held every year for the councils of these different constitution is in different areas of the country again the parliamentary life itself has started long before independence it started in one nine hundred forty nine when we had our first because it of assembly. And then the second elections were in December one thousand nine hundred fifty three which gave birth to the present House representatives in the Senate which are at work and they will continue until the next elections. So. There is under the auspices of the United Nations a committee that out oh it's working out of a pattern of assistance to countries that recently became independent in. Particular problems from you were states of the field of legislation administration and so on if your country encountered this specific difficulty is inherent in a new country migrant. Did not encounter these difficulties as I said democracy started a long time in our country and beside the democratic system we have an official decentralized system of administration through local government councils which I refer to we have an efficient administration at central government and institution which been at work which has been at work for the last fifty. Years and this administration has been known to be one of the best if not the best in the Middle East but it is only difficulty we have is that we need some experts and technicians at the time being employed and explosive machines from India from Pakistan. And other lands from many other European countries and so far as technical assistance as skilled labor and technicians and experts I think the world must draw from one Commonwealth and this what we're doing. Mr Ashton. I have listened to most of your speeches in San Bruno. Committee with great interest and I was quite impressed by the fact that the spokesman of one of the youngest members of the United Nations you were saw out spoke and I would like you. Discussed the colonial question for a moment on which you have been solved. The question of Cyprus and other questions and your attitude to the Western world in connection with this problem. With Dr life the question is so wide that it may take a very long time to answer it but if I'm to answer it as briefly as possible or within the time limit I thought I had and I will say that in my country we stand for the liberation of all countries which are and that. We consider this to be a fundamental right for all peoples of the world looked without discrimination as to race color or creed when we say that we stand for the independence of all peoples that does not mean in the least that we encourage terrorism and are doing kind of Blodgett the pattern in which and through which my country gained her independence the pattern which we look forward to see prevailing in all the world that we were able to get I wouldn't dependence so the negotiations so bargain and so. Tactical methods in a peaceful way with the United Kingdom. My country was not at any time a British colony but it was a condominium and that and Mr to be an issue. Had Mr Du Bruel which was called a condominium by its very name meant that it is a transitional administered to government and till the sovereignty over the territory is decided either by direct negotiations or through international consultation between the disputing parties speeding past the sovereignty of the or the Sudan were broken Egypt and this would immediately we were able to enter into such negotiations and to claim our right to suffer and over our country we were able to gain our ground through peaceful negotiations so the tactics. And we are today independent even without going through the ordeal of a pianist the independence of my country was gained by a declaration of independence from a joint sitting of the houses in this is and the Senate which I had under to be one of the sponsors movers of that resolution the British adoptions gave that blessing straight and on the first day were nine hundred fifty six we became independent and within one month or so our younger Republic was the cognized old one. Of all the world that. It's very possible for all countries which are now under foreign room to gain their independence it is certainly the mandate that Mr King powers as they want to call themselves these days and when I said you will manage it their mandate towards the people of the country and their mandate towards the world at large it is their duty to develop the country and the people. Until they reach a level of self-governing status immediately that is the level of self-governing status they must be given the chance of exercising their right of self-determination it may be independence it may be union it may be a federation with the present and listed in power or with a one that is up to the people of the country if the administering bars we're going to are there doing mandate to the world and to the people they govern then we will not have the spiritual journey of Cyprus Westbury and others in my country we developed a strong belief in the authority of the United Nations and it was our candid opinion that the United Nations is the only factor in the world today which will liquidate the colonial positions rather than freeze the status quo of those positions. Can I ask one candid question in this connection you said. You stood for the liberation of foreign countries under foreign would you applied that to Hungary and to your voting and. The Russian hung I apply that to all countries of the world and all peoples of the world without discrimination my voting in Hungary was a mistake the reason for that abstention was this that we were told that there has been a Russian aggression on the Hungarian people and that they want to close its committed we said if that is the case then the first step to be taken is a commission to visit hungry with their view to ascertain the facts and when the facts are obtained then you can judge the issue. It would be very difficult for me being a person of legal training I set myself as a judge in the bench for eight years and then practice as a lawyer before the course will ten years or more it would be very difficult for me to decide any issue without being in possession of the concrete facts of that issue for this reason my delegation and standing in the voting and again question that Russians refused to let a commission go into it and get. It going to always be a matter of approach. There was a moment when the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Hungary I greet the discussion again little will visit angry with some of his voice some of the members of his staff stuff and he were part of the United Nations and that bombing there was a debate going on in the going to assembly I was one of the persons who approach it in the villages which were interested in the issue or more interested than others in the issue that the best move to be is that this debate will now be adjourned pending the visit of the secretary general and his attorney is just it on the debate a condemnation vote was just it you cannot offer that expect getting government allowed to get a gun at all or in the commission of it and. So as one of the sponsors of their resolution now before the first committee on the Western Union question me I asked you if you really think that this is the Colonial Who problem. It's a detriment and you may understand that I am specially interested in this matter What seems strange to me is that you would not call it a form of calling listen then and you would be in government run step in the street you know for certain territory result having the population of that area about at all or being in intimate it's not granting them the right of Salop determination before asking like Indonesia just you know the tense for office of on it just to read it it's true that my delegation is one of the sponsors of this resolution I consider that the presence of the other lands in West. Is it poorly the same as the presence of the French and journey of the presence of the British in Cyprus. Was in has never been and will never be part of the new lands it's part of that area of issue but again that is illusion is only asking for. A good for good or has a good office commission which will help the parties to come to an agreement but that's a dispute now are another land government then the new single meant and then have been suppressed. On my part I would be the first one to support and it is a good in that we come from the from the Netherlands that instead of handing girl was going to Indonesia there will be a plebiscite which. Will decide where the people want to go if the people who question them are to be independent they can be if they want to become part of Indonesia they can be if they want to become members of a federal another land government they can very well do so that. What is your outlook. Let's say on the. Sudan has to play in the alignment of. You siding with. Egypt on international questions or. Are you taking an independent that. Slash I wonder Dr lash I want to make it very clear that I fought for the Prince of my country for the last twenty five years in front of all of positions and when that country got had independence and I was placed by my people as Minister of Foreign Affairs I would not allow my country to be a satellite to any government on us our foreign policy would always in many to wrong our local needs and interests but we take into consideration our economic position our security our social affairs our religion with our neighbors and our relations with the world of the clash of foreign policy is decidedly this that we want to keep. It positive neutralism and when I say but that neutralism I mean that apart. From The interests of the Sudan as a country and government will decide every issue on its merits we're going with addiction government we're Magri was some of the other Arab states and many of the issues but that agreement is not simply because we happen to belong to that part of the world that it must be because the merits of the case require that decision or dictated that decision struck out. One of the great problems in your country is that to see. What is your program to fight against this it or see. It so you and Dave let's go ahead bring it on. Well we're glad to allies that there is illiteracy in the Sudan and we are working towards a solution by first of all I mean more schools and we succeeded and succeeded in doing so and I can tell you and during the last six years the number of schools has been practically doubled apart from this we have what we call adult education and we are in Barking on mass education and this has been very successful. It's not to my knowledge so far that you know school is helping but it's sure that we will ask for such a help Mr Majuba there has been talk recently of Sudan seeking American economic aid can you tell me if there is any truth to this and if so why Miss aid. I can tell you frankly that our decided economy policy of this that we do not look forward for aid from any country whatsoever which would be coupled with strings or economy comparable INS or any other influence for the development of the country we would look in the first place to get aid from international institutions like the International Bank of Reconstruction and Development the International Monetary Fund and others in the institutions apart from this I would do is open for private foreign capital we encourage it we give it every possible facility but it missed and. Would encourage foreign capital to come without any custom to use it would be exempted from the exemption for the first five years it would be given the chance of returning part of the profits exporter exporting them and also be exporting power to all of the problems of the capital and we are going to ask for it from the United States of America or not this will depend whether any such aid will conform with the formula I just explained to Mr Simon is there no thinking in your country in the Arab nations about a common loss African market. Coming. Economical program for laws that are not to my knowledge but I believe that the North African and that is Morocco to Musea Libya and perhaps Jerry are thinking of having a federal government which would certainly coordinate that economics. But only dissuade you. That's what I knew. But wind up country is as a whole we are studying ways and means whereby they cannot mix of the of the different countries will tend to be complimentary rather than competitive I'm sorry to interrupt but our time is up you have been listening to me and my seas international interview and our guest tonight was Mohamed Ahmed Matthew Minister of Foreign Affairs of Sudan and chairman of his country's delegation to the United Nations interviewing Mr Majuba where our whole life story of our by her side turn Vienna Austria Georgia of detached is Iraq Switzerland and Paul Sanders have had parole Amsterdam in Holland.