Bus and subway fare evasion continues to be a growing problem for the MTA. The transit agency has attempted to address the issue in recent years, but its data indicates the rate of straphangers skipping fares has more than doubled since the pandemic. And more than half of bus riders aren’t paying for their ride. At a MTA board meeting last week, chair Janno Lieber said the agency would begin throwing more resources at the problem.

He joined WNYC's Sean Carlson to discuss what the agency to address a problem Lieber says costs the MTA hundreds of millions of dollars per year.