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Ryan Lizza on the NSA's "State of Deception"

New Yorker staff writer Ryan Lizza traces the history of the National Security Agency’s intelligence programs, from 9/11 to today. For his latest article, “State of Deception.” He speaks with key players in the intelligence community, including Senators Dianne Feinstein and Ron Wyden, and Matthew G. Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat and a key member of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has for years been fighting to get the N.S.A. to be more forthcoming about domestic spy programs. Lizza looks at how the leaks from Edward Snowden may provide the momentum for changing the law.