The debate surrounding mass incarceration focuses mostly on prisons, but what about the millions of Americans cycling through local jails? Jasmine Heiss and Jacob Kang-Brown of the Vera Institute of Justice discuss their work documenting racial and geographic trends in jail incarceration. They explain why small jails in rural American and small cities are seeing an explosion in incarceration, what the numbers tell us about racial disparity in the criminal justice system, and whether reforms are making a difference in regions outside of major cities.

This segment is guest hosted by Jonathan Capehart.