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I have one announcement to make we have a reception tonight for the Overseas Press Club flight to Europe which is just returned and I hope that as many as possible will be with us at six thirty tonight to welcome Mattie Ross and all the others back from their trip I'd like to begin by presenting the at the head table. Representing Governor Rockefeller here today is very and freely friendly. It's my pleasure to introduce the new Brazilian ambassador to Washington who has just arrived in the last few hours ambassador my go to guy as. You well know our program director Joe Newman Joe. It's a very special pleasure to when produce ambassador Lincoln Gordon the American ambassador to Brazil for two reasons the second of which will be obvious in a moment and the first of which of course is to have our American I'm represented to Brazil here with us Ambassador good and. On the other end Joshua powers who is chairman of evidence press services who has had a very long exposed in with journalists in Latin America and especially in Brazil. So much of that's. One of the leading industrialists of so. Kind of tone your Carlos Braga the president of the bank of the state of I want to borrow. And our own beloved member of the mother of a basket of God Mr. Minister Mesquita the Brazilian representative to the United Nations. And the very charming lady who three years ago delighted all the O.P.C. years by going home to our own kitchen and cooking black beans for one of our Brazilian nights she is also the ranking woman a diplomat in the United States with the rank of minister she is consul general of Brazil in New York daughter. Without further ado pleasure to introduce Governor last third who has been very much in the headlines in the United States very much in the minds of Americans at this critical moment through which our close friend the Republic of Brazil has been passing governor lesser. Mages and gentlemen is by the better to be here again. That give me. That good memories of the days gone by when I was a sort of a self exists here and I've. Got sanctuary I'm in this club now. I'm about to go back to my job. I'm very proud to say I live here one of my best friends and one of my best compatriots a man of outstanding call it has you know seventh of democracy the fight of freedom in my country should I see my god yes our president and bastard. I always think that. Having the privilege of being one of the few politicians who can claim actually and honestly that he's also a journalist. Should not inflict upon you and Electra we journalists hate to be in and all genes and humility as you know is not one of the virtues of ah profession. So I go straight ahead and ask you to stop shooting not before I say that yesterday one in the National Press Club in Washington I tried to give testimonies I believe in a Salvation Army technique of getting testimonies instead of just using my own words I used the testimony of the Morgan trust that in its latest bulletin of this current June issue gave a wonderful report on the situation Brazil it's quite a piece of specialized journalism. But later on when I visit the headquarters of a the a i never can say that A F L C O my friend's dad said Well but you missed one point Yoko did Morgan trust but you did not go. So I got it. And I think it's far better than the mark and trust report this estate and by a five I'll see I owe Executive Council on Brazil date of one thousand May and completed by another in the current edition of The Bulletin on June they say the recent recent events in Brazil which culminated in the successful civil military revolution of April first demonstrated the great good demonstration of the freedom loving people to wend the grave threat Constitution and the democratic process the Communists and the corrupt elements in the former government aided by ex-president good are. Systematically exploiting a rapidly deteriorating economic situation they were no overing deliberately to create an atmosphere of political chaos which would culminate in a push and a suppression of all false as opposed to them and it go on in the same scene but I have a better approach to it given you all know of the Fabian Society this is a pamphlet pamphlet just printed in London by the paper and society in Brazil it's dated June sixteenth for Page twenty one it's a story in sixty three a not untypical. Federal Revenue a mountain to the nine hundred thirty billion conservatives and federal expenditure to one trillion four hundred thirty five billion reserves dust the deficit was five hundred and five bill and preserve those seven sixty six of fifty fifty six percent of revenue I am proud to say that that is it is already cut to cut to a half in two months of the new government and then they say again between forty eight and sixty two the cost of living in Brazil multiplied by approximately twenty times and then about their great and great form that was one of the basic cause of confusion inside and outside the country that Fabian Society not to Morgan trust have to say this about Brazil great and reform page twenty four a great and great form for the not simply a matter of breaking up large states states in some parts of Brazil the council edition of small farms is almost as necessary a great and before would be in a tent to shatter a particular frame of mind and to drag the rural community into the twentieth century it would also of course have political effects and could markedly change the political character of Brazil Well that kind of a greater but is already proposed by President gust of a Bronco to the Congress for you know. Workers in Brazil have been striking outside of law it was a matter of favor. Seventy percent of our workers are not yet organizing labor unions basically because labor unions was just a weapon and the hands of the government the workers did not have to pay fees to the unions for one good simple reason they paid it in the form of a tax the so called Labor tax representing one day wage area that the government collected and distributed among the labor unions according to their behavior towards the government this was the labor movement on the Volga Scoobie check and call out now the government is beginning to take measures to suppress that tax to open labor unions with free. Movement and to call free elections in the labor movement for the first time in its life I think there's examples would be enough to make a point in it and the point is that we are not reactionaries and I would like to see some prove some evidence whatsoever of our reactionary character not only in words but in fact in action if you allow me to take myself as an example and I am not the only one by all means when I arrived in the ministration about four years ago Sir part of our children in school did not have a place in school today we have about thirty thousand vacant since waiting for children we increased by about three hundred percent. The place is in the high school public high school system but more than that more than things that would sound like boasting such as increasing by seventy percent out sewage system and rail by more than doubling the system of distribution and of water by tackling and dealing finally in a realistic approach was to slum problem by building houses by selling houses to the work workers and more important than that by integrating the slum inhabitants into the community we did nothing we are very proud of we did give back to the people confidence and hope that was that was the point we were fighting for in the last four years. We tried to show that there were democratic ways of so our problems in Brazil and that evidence as it accumulated through results part of them was you know help but the major part on our own became sort of a scandal this start saying well they can build houses they can make schools because they are paid by the Americans and to an ambassador gotten challenge in the receipt by Governor Rice had to prove that actually did all these has got more much more money from the United States than the governorship of going about or the very presence of a few governors that in their own way. Well being successful in proving the point that adds that Democritus is still the best solution on the best way of solving popular problems became such a scandal that they could not take it anymore since we had this there promoted by the government since we had a federal government fully interested and committed to provoke this although what a first time in our lives and I think in many people's life the opposition was asking for civic peace and the government posse the war wire Dick the economy of the country was going to pieces we had such a joy among the official circles that I think every failure was saluted as a new step towards the new regime that was being prepared at a certain moment even my physical presence in government became intolerable to present cooler last December his government gave orders to arrest me are kill me if necessary a group of paratroopers got the author thanks God a lot of them refused and they were punished for refusing and the only one who accepted that mission was later rewarded by being appointed military attache to our embassy in Paris and when a congressional investigation did start on it Mr Cooper shacked loses his influence in Congress to block the investigation and impeach it so if we would go on details such as that we would go very far I think it's better to stop here and ask my colleagues from the. Pressed to have the priority on the question period Thank you. Thank you Governor Lessard I will ask Joe Norman to take the question. I think we all know that Carlos lots there is not just the one of the leading political figures of Brazil he is of course has been one of the leading newspaper man of Latin America I knew him many years ago knew him then to have been one of the toughest of the newspaper reporters we gave him a rather tough time this morning milk protein Heineman myself on a television program and I think he enjoyed it as much as we did so that just by way of invitation on his behalf to go ahead and put your questions is straightforward and choppy as you waste and I'm sure you'll get a straightforward or even a chopper answer we'll start with the press table any questions you'd better put them in quickly because I've still got a lot that I haven't been able to ask myself why are you called an extreme rightist and a former Communist Well I will begin by the end because I was a fellow traveler and my use base is so uses that I never actually belong to the Communist Party but I would belong to it easily if it was not for some technical reasons of internal No organization of the common spotted then. You know many people here is think that that is my contests I'm in Brazil but they are going doing McCotter in the contrary sense because every time day recalled me that I was a Communist that was exactly what Makati used to say. The first part is quite difficult to answer I don't know what the intentions would be and I know I know the reasons for it what I know is this and justice and. More than that in terms of professional journalism the BE NOT curacy of it but it seems to me it comes out of a tendency to simplify where does this fellow stand on communism he's against so he must be a reactionary there was a time in which everyone who didn't have sympathy for fascism would be considered a communist and vice versa let's not do the same thing again I am anti communists basically for the same reasons that made me an anti fossil but anticommunism is not a profession for me and it's not only it's not even my solo or my main preoccupation I believe more in things pro in doings prose things than auntie's things every school I do opened there is a weapon against communism much more than actually to put a communist in prison that web couple of communists in prison for a few hours in Rio up to now I did not dismiss as things go public worker public functionary in Rio because of being or being suspect of being communist I don't believe in that I believe if a fellow went to be stupid let him him be stupid provided he does not that distributed becomes a malignancy to the country. My concern about communist I should say our concern about common is is that they were ruling the country by proxy. There were never numerous enough men all powerful enough to compete with us and they don't care about competition they never made a minister day made the secretary to the minister they were not making speeches they were writing it for the others to rig their way out of power behind the throne if there was a throne whatsoever as soon as they got out of power they became a minority as they actually are. And the only chance they have to go back is that. If we do two things one to allow corruption to go on because corruption in Latin America is the best ally that come one is may have the other one is not to do the sings we are supposed to do schools curbing inflation developing country making mode in this nation of Agriculture helping private initiative curbing its abuses eventually but considering that the right to produce is a part of the Rights of Man I think this perhaps answers the question but I don't know it does answer the question for those who prefer to call us rightists and their right to call it but they are not influencing my thoughts. The next question please would you comment on the new bill presented to the Brazilian congress May I then for the. Or rather just announced by the right the president of Brazil for the benefit of the radio audience let me just explain briefly what it is. It. It is a proposal by the president whereby the next president at the time of elections will be elected not by a plurality as in the past but by a majority that is over fifty percent and in the event no single candidate gets a majority then the whole issue goes to the Congress where the Congress can decide between the candidates in the election and any other candidates that might be advanced in the Congress this is a matter of great concern I think the Congress was set up in any others who are likely to be candidates for the president's. Yes it is Joe but. I think this is a part of a series of reforms of the political system that just beginning personally very much afraid of this rule I was in favor of it some time ago as a tactic not as a doctrine I don't believe there's a doctrine I think it's just a tactic as saying that you can have or have not and it does not interfere was a democratic process anyway I think it could be good eventually but at least it would require a bipartisan system not with thirteen or so parties as we have we would think you are in the grave danger of splitting Brazil into fields the popular vote and the congressional vote that is people one side and politicians on the other side I wouldn't like this I think the best idea is to get back on this I'm going to say that very frankly to my president. But I don't think this is a big issue anyway we have more important things to think about the next question. Samuel GA human who is well known as a writer on Latin American affairs asks if. Mr Of said he has any ideas about revitalizing the holding up into American conferences the one schedule have been held at Quito been postponed time and again I'm very proud to answer a question by this December when I was one of my first teachers through your books and I salute you as a pioneer of our understanding now interim Merican system. Well sir I think in your question that was the seeds of my answer I just can't give you a general answer which I hope will be satisfying to you present customer Bronco was among the expeditionary forces and it lay shoulder to shoulder to us so yes is a man of outstanding Democratic convictions he is surrounded by military and civilians alike of the best standard and of a probated Democratic record so I think that is no doubt that Brazil will take I wouldn't say lead their ship but you take in a broader way in the brotherhood of American republics its place in helping you and in letting you help us in promoting a sound interim Merican system of nations. Ah. We can take one more question the last one Adele made and now what has become of Brazilian What is it future and will Brazilian continue to be the capital I think many are still asking that. Madam. President has been called the biggest. Natural scale show of protector in the world it has also being called the new worst ruins of the world. President was a case of intoxication of Weston's films. People believe that capital should be pioneering in opening new economic front. People believe that we did have prayers and sort of a Middle West as you had in the United States apparatus. Agreement between Russia and the United States to decide the knives the sea water near civilization was go we'll go back to the sea shore as in the past instead of going inside the hills where water is chaos anyway if we don't we cannot get but come back people like words in Brazil and we coined the word for it we say irreversible no one try to prove it but we like it this way the last evaluations and they are not yet completed showed that could be Shaq spent in Brazil six hundred billion dollars and up to now just less than five percent of the bureaucrats live there. Was besides being a big show like attacked her. Mr not broke off told me that it became an observation that he could not go to a dentist without seeing some publication the waiting room was proceeding spread out spread over it was a big promotion it was a big business for some contractors but it was also a nightmare for all of us know it is there if you know could use it as its headquarters we would get it gladly. But anyway it is there it is opening some fronts and it would be unfair to say that it is a nuisance and nothing else no it has some good points the question is to know which. I think if we decentralize the administration but us who are enough to use the old word coined by they got spirit in Italy if you discount just your own eight the administration Brazil knowing that we have a sub continent to rule and a sub continent cannot be ruled by one man in the center. Accumulating So as and and the president putting his name on the papers the whole day long in other words in one way if we decentralize administration Brazil can be ruled even from Brazil yet that's what I hope for the. Governor of the state of Nevada we welcome him back again before and after the next presidential election regardless of what the outcome may be. What is your program for the I'm dwellings of Rio and the poverty stricken in the north east you make the audience Mr Ferdinand. Think you're in a grave danger of being listened to lecture the rest of the afternoon. I would try to make a long story short but to do so I must explain to you a thing or tell us a thing which shows the danger of the crazy ideas when they become important enough in important circles there is an organization called the Latin American Committee on Economic Affairs do you know what we called to say Paul that started the wonderful discussion between instructor lists. In a in economics Well this committee decided that housing is an inflationary factor since House industry. Produces a consumer's good and not the producers good production good that crazy idea airs and they're e Bay's opting creasing of the slums in our countries because from down on our governments start signing and saying factories but denied the right to private banks and to state banks as well to give credit to finance homes for their work of that work and these factors Well then what is the process of been his Asian going going as it goes all over the world and with the Coming of Age of industrialization in Brazil thousands of farm hands came to the towns and start working in factories getting better salaries. In the favelas of Rio about sixty to seventy percent of the dwellers are actually workers not margin those not friends just workers but they cannot buy a home for the simple reason that they have credit to buy television sets but they don't have credit to buy a home anyway I used to say that valid as from a realistic approach is one of the evidences. Of the benefit of free initiative because it does represent and please don't take me wrong it does represent a progress as bad as it is to the previous situation they were worse than they are now in the favelas this is necessary to say to explain our approach to the problem we are not going to the favelas like Rousseau would go and see here the native boys naturally good and let's help them because they will be always good and civilization is always bad no we believe that they have to integrate a community more than giving out things to them we have to prepare them to become citizens as well as dwellers and there's approach we are developing a plan and we are actually working on it for building houses and sell all told them on installment plan we had a part financing by Alliance for Progress and we did already built a villa Kennedy a village young. We are building dealers parents are now in a few other projects we are beginning now a new series of thirty thousand units but we need in real alone one hundred thousand. Our houses deficit. Low cost houses only is of about ten thousand units. And that deficit was accumulated in the last ten years so we have about one million one hundred thousand one million inhabitants of Rio needing desperately house aside from building houses we do it as a nuclear we don't do the complete house we do the basic up in a zation sewage electricity water and the streets with a plot of land and one room one bathroom one kitchen and a space in the project for all themselves to build the rest until they have a three bedroom house in some cases we don't go so far as that we know we are poor and poor men have to use their brains it's only the rich that can afford to be stupid when we go to some favelas and we open eyes them basically in a very tough some merry way we do the cleaning we do it. For the basic conditions for health and better living and themselves they do stock doing a improvement on their barracks we sometimes use their labor voluntarily of course in doing this work and we also try to integrate them in the community for instance through a public public corporation Co PAC we finance his or no and small industries for them. The fellow who lives in with a valid works as an electrician and them to open his own shop down there we provide them schools and then Vilar Kennedy for instance last time I was there about two months and so ago they had two new things to ask for one a church and I don't know how I can have money to build a church since the state is not supposed to build churches and the other one was to have a high school in a football club we organize ing them to have their own football club on their own results we don't believe in something close to that point as to give them a football club and you should see it is amazing thing and that answers finally the question and I'm that barracks thankful to my colleague from this cognizant times bought it. Some time ago my secretary of Social Services was a lady teacher and the couple cunt who has just being invited by President customer Branca to be the president of the new bank of housing that he is all going to I think according to our experience and following the plan made by Minister Roberto compass our former ambassador to Washington in which through which the government will underwrite investments made on housing in order to encourage private initiative also because Very No there is no money in the world in the state government hands to solve alone the housing problem but when she got one of this of the allies to promote the moving of the people there the minister of justice of the Gulag got there was a couple of Marines and said we will guarantee if you stay here we don't want you to move from here they need MS or a TO PROMOTE to spare. We were taking their capital out and there was so crazy about it that day and so it didn't and put stones on the secretary of social service she had to be defended by the favelas themselves then the communists got there and tried to convince that we would separate women from husband and you know this is quiet and menace so she did the following she put all the women in a favela in buses and did visit to the new houses project to convince the women that that was a good thing because men usually go there just to us to sleep and to promote population which increases in Brazil at the rate of three and a half percent so this is one of the most promising industries in Brazil well. That was again as well as out revolution and women's movement when they saw all houses in which opening a false and there comes the water as one of them put to me the other day for you was born on the water coming out from a false it does nothing but for me Gov up there twenty years of getting a can of water in my head up he'll three four times a day that sounds quite like a miracle and we gave them that new sense of hope confidence and self-respect This is our revolution. That. When you identify yourself played down years in the business week. Will you give us your view of Dr Kobi character who is considered. Of the prescription of could be checked his boss the political right a he had been considered one of the leading candidates for the president presidency and why was he denied a trial and hearing. All is a very natural question to be put on me which is on a very difficult question to answer because if I say that I have nothing to do is that the provision of political rights that could be checked that would sound like a coward act for me because I would leave my present alone on it and I think it was a bad a brave and courageous thing for him to do and you would not believe anyway so there's no point in denying it I will miss mystical but check out the polls. Because that challenge affirmative that he was very likely to be the winner here Neal that was not true on his own party the conservatives on his party did not like it's all his idea of going on a coalition was a communists and they were stopped supporting me even if they distrust some of my ideas and the communists would all be take him as a less evil than myself I think he was already exposed as an exponent of corruption in Brazil so he'd be far more easier to beat him than anybody else but the question is not this the question is a question of justice how could the government of the revolution punish the lieutenant's without punishing the general. Now you may say and you said why didn't you your government first produce the evidence because it's we have to produce the evidence and go through due process of law we wouldn't do a revolution you have to have the idea that evolution was not only necessary but inevitable and even indispensable and in the first act of it they had to throw away to take out of the power of those who can prevent the revolution to produce its results it would be if you tiled to make a revolution and let those who made it in the afterglow go on in influential positions and I'm very I'm not happy about what happened to mystical Ishaq but I think you should not make a legend about him I don't want to we have a pro vamp in Brazil we don't like to beat men with it when they are not on their food on death eat so I would rather prefer not to elaborate on his past deeds but believe me there was not he should not be too proud of it I'm afraid I didn't answer the question in the northeast on the second part of my friend from Chicago question the basic thing about in all these is that in all these does not have enough Thailand the problem the noughties does the poverty the technique is rather technological problem much more than a social problem there was a lot of planning and not much action just to give you an example in the last two years or so this is just a few toddling charge of the Sudan which is a federal agency for the Northeast region. Let about two hundred billion Cruzeiro some of your Alliance for Progress plans laid down in the bunker to Brazil that major part of that was supposed to be financing projects already approved and he never used it so I think by a combination of planning of private initiatives going there we can deal with the problem it's not a very good thing for a politician to say even less for a candidate but let's that for a moment Dina detached away and try to look at it from a source a logical point of view Brazil is a sort of an empire with its colonies inside its own front. So our development must take into consideration this sociological fact and to develop the northeast as well as the North that nobody's speaking about the Amazon Valley and so we have to go through different ways education technology. Free initiative state planning finance and and again honest administration this is the basic reform to do in Brazil to have for some. Some governments that will not become rich at the price of making the country poor. Back to Mexico be shacked it's not a very sad thing but just even last very joyful thing to say I would like to have him in the polls out like to beat him in the polls I think I could beat him in the polls in sixteen we all call red he betrayed his candidate when we didn't actually quaters he had forty eight percent of the votes. I think he was about going to an end as a political figure. At least as a candidate but it seems to me that the revolution has its own inner logic it has to be coherent and it was an act of coherence that took the political right some mystical Bishkek if we like it or not this is one of the accidents of political life I have been here as he is now in Spain I have been in Portugal at the is now in Spain I never claimed about it I took it seriously and I got back and folks why doesn't he do so. Yesterday the questioner makes the charge that. I lost my said. Sounds a little bit like Castro and he asked him to square the reference to the democratic principle to which callously said unsubscribed with the denial of due process of law on the case of Duncan could change. Or. I didn't want to go over there's details but since I'm challenge I have to answer and you are entitled to get a fair answer. If you don't mind I think in the jew process of time here you have to do process of law right now Mr could be shacked is under investigation for the following items spending in the construction of Brazilian. Operation by now that has he spent about one billion reserves and building a palace for himself in a desert island in the center of the country the island of by now the bank wraps and the appointment of his Secretary Rumsfeld to Pinney to the fortune of his brother in law which it all began as the Lamb who opened one of the most prosperous bank in Brazil in about two years of his government loans and I'm not a federal saving bank regularities in north of the process and institutes of social insurance imports of black beans from the United States and Mexico rocked and black beings that had to be thrown out in the sea under his personal direct order us. Contract between the Brazilians to national national industry and one private firm in which his friends were concerned the. Institut of his sick would was the president of which is quite a problem the president coffee Institute and a covert shack one gentleman by the men name of Moto Siemens and practically became got the monopoly of selling Brazilian coffee to Iraq and in three operations he gave Brazil a loss of about forty million dollars This is already proved by congressional investigation in committees in which Mr could be checked pocky has a part in a major part. Land in pump poorly on his native set in the his city of Belo recently he statement on his value was on his plate but we mourn you because in his state. He did fake. Bob our laws presidents are supposed to declare what they have. And he declared less than actually he has income tax that he did did not the exact troops on his income you know order not to pay taxes his election as Senator of for us the only way he has to remain in Congress in the have immunity as a congressman was to be elected senator and he boat a place by appointing a senator to a high place in his administration and getting a Vanka vacancy to occupy himself as a senator and to do so he used his influence as president and other sayings that are still under investigation I hate to read this but since you are trying to transform the whole case of the president revolution the case against all pro could be fact I have to say that he's not an innocent fellow we are just trying to prove it in cause but did the idea of the president was to get rid of those fellows while the revolution was still going on Mr could be shot from a political point of view help with Google are all the time to help it to the point in which his party collaborated was Goulart in the process of disrupting our economy and putting it into pieces but now let me finish by saying that I can be more royalist than the king the present vice president of Brazil was a former minister of finance of mystical be Shaq and one of the letters of his party in President of brown coal cabinet there are two ministers who belongs to check party and a quick check party who has majority in Congress is supporting the government. Still so if they do support the government in spite of what happened to Mr B. check why should I care about. The. I was asked to identify the questioner who was the on Denon he author of a syndicated column which appears in New York in the world telegraph because he would you identify yourself and your publication and put the question. We always make an exception for Lady especially for a very distinct. Dorothy Gordon wants to put a question and this will be the last one that you come up with. I'm not sure Lincoln. You know as a member of the press and since you are addressing members of the press and I include all the media radio and television as well as the press do you think I said that the American press is doing enough. I should do more to present a true picture of the problems that are now facing this revolutionary period if you know it's in Brazil. Was described in the you did the very good question. But you put me in trouble. Well it's not a complaining it's not a criticism it's rather I think I hope it constructive thought the trouble with the press here is that it has so many information that sometimes it become lost in its mass of information you have day to day items that you distributed among your papers your regular television. But the INA her sense the added yard than thing in the labyrinth of this mass of information sometimes you lose by you I mean you know riddle and your listeners when something appears in a country like Brazil you're it does don't have and you didn't have an opportunity to give them enough background information and you have to explain all of a sudden a long complicated complex problem that's why this storm I'm simplification tend to. Make difficult things look too simple there is no simple saying in the country in any country if you take the time there's little countries in the world and you try picks plane them it requires more than a weekend to go there and more than two lines to tell the story so it's not a matter of lack of competence it's a matter of lack of city agitators calm place all. You have to conquer you have to sell to the city editors and to the publishers and editors the idea that Brazil is a subject that sells papers I remember years ago when I was here and somebody kidnapped a professor of Columbia as Spanish professor a good friend of mine in four days and days I looked in the papers for a single notice of it that was no notice and discussing the matter was a friend of mine of the press here he said you know so many people disappear every day in New York that it is not a news item. Well once one paper printed a protest by some professors and students and Columbia on this fact and a days later about two weeks during the next two weeks the disappearance of the gun lenders was headlines in your afternoon papers that shows that news items can become big issues provided you feel as in the case of Brazil one thing if there is a moment in the history of journalism in which every reporter has to has a tremendous sense of responsibility. Is in this particular moment of the life of my country because when lightly for the sake of simplification or just because they don't like my face or should I seize face or they prefer the smile of mystical be Shaq or they would like to see a good civil war was all correspondence and all that and why are photos and cities bombed and so on when they say this is a righteous fascist movement you are delaying your help to build up schools in Brazil you are breaking up a good pass of unity among the two countries if there is a moment in which outside of propaganda outside of any criticism on the on the right of information we should call it rightful right of information a proper use of it to promote peace and progress and American unity in the continent this is the moment. And that's why I'm saying this has gotten for your question and I hope I did not make too much trouble for me and that's.