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Good evening ladies and gentlemen tonight's international interview spotlights one of the leaders in New York state government and a man of ever growing importance in the national political picture Attorney General Jacob K. Javits those still a comparatively young man Mr Javits has devoted close to two decades to public service is brilliant career as all him elected to three successive terms in Congress as representative from New York's twenty first congressional district elected each time with an increase parity his popularity with New Yorkers regardless of partisanship led to a smashing victory in the one nine hundred fifty four race by the attorney general ship of the Empire State despite the fact that a Democratic governor was elected that year here to find out about the one nine hundred fifty six political picture from Mr Javits top newspaper men of the foreign press who will now introduce themselves My name is on Little House D.S. I don't pretend you'll drop a damn good on and off the Netherlands drop and I'm an adult it's not so new because it's over one hundred years old my name is yeah and I'm going to tell on Vice President of the Foreign Press Association correspond of the Belgian news agency. My name is Dr Joseph Menn I might have present dismiss news agency and the targets on site in a daily newspaper All right now let's have the first question from you Mr Boster Yes Well Mr Javits. We have very little to the last few days about a suggestion that the governor had to or would run before a vice president for the Republican Party to staff and they said that they make a very good impression Braund is dead also your opinion so I think that Governor staffs and one of the most interesting political questions of this particular year which will have many repetitions in the days ahead first I'll answer the last part of your question as to what effect upon foreign policy it seems to me that. Mr Next ona vice president has done a rather admirable job as the president second and especially in this foreign trips. And I doubt very much that that would be a primary reason for an open convention in terms of the vice presidency. But we're very well known that the been a lot of discussion about the mix and candidacy and in my own opinion this discussion can be settled only by the president if the president makes it clear that the field is open for a vice presidential candidate that it's entirely practicable far all people including myself to come forward with suggestions for example I have myself suggested before very serious consideration for governor Julie of our state and for governor I heard it with whom I served in the Congress for six years and foam I have very great admiration but until the president makes it very clear himself and this is not as yet been done the president makes it very clear himself that he is not committed to any vice presidential candidate it would seem to be inappropriate for all the suggestions of that Kerik that the calm followed which might complicate the president's task in his own candidacy Mr I'm going to tell Mr Javid in that connection would you have any names to suggest for a secretary of state in the second Eisenhower administration Well again you have almost the same situation we have an incumbent secretary of state Secretary of State Dulles is well known that in some matter as I have been in great agreement with Secretary Dallas for example on the question of the founder of the farm ation of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization and the whole effort to integrate the friends of the free world in the Far East on other matters like policy with respect to Israel I have been opposed. To what has been put forward by the secretary of state Nevertheless I believe that the secretary of state's policy must be considered in terms of the president's policy and the president in my view has been the palest leader not only of our own country but of the whole free world for peace I would therefore say that no speculation as to a successor to Secretary Dulles is in order until the president himself invites it and then if that were invited then there are certainly other this. Bangash names in the Republican camp like again Governor Julie John McCloy who is the great and successful representative of the United States and Western Germany and undoubtedly other names which would certainly rank as Republicans to be secretary of state if the seal world Dr Mannheim to get back to the question of. Gov for McGovern This doesn't do you think that governess does made his suggestion without any hint from. A certain group within the Republican Party or do you think that he might have had a motive to suggest government have for device presidency Well Dr Mannheim I believe that his motive was to do what he thought would be and the best interests of the Republican Party and of the people of the United States I think Governor staff and is a very patriotic American Now as to his consult consultations with any people in the Republican Party that would be idle speculation on my part except to say that he certainly didn't consult me and that they didn't have to in the reason why he should and that the the question as to whether his initiative will all will not bear any kind of an interesting fruit well be answered in the days ahead and I have given it as my conviction that the president's view upon the subject is decisive and that the president's view cannot be presented to the country in my opinion by anyone but the president and I hope very much that it will be made clear before too long what is the president's final view upon the subject certainly everything if we have read according to the record now everything we have read what indicate that the president wishes to run with us the next and if there is to be any different impression in the country in my opinion it will have to come from the president will go to another is the subject Mr Chaifetz. The question of aid has been very much in the limelight lately do you think that this country we should go in for a very extensive program of foreign aid also in the years to come. It is my opinion that the initiative of the president in suggesting long term commitments for foreign aid was absolutely sound and that we will have to come to it this is not a new struggle in the Congress for Congress guards very jealously its right to appropriate year by year I'd like to call attention to the fact especially to those who are interested from abroad but in the European recovery program the Congress that be elated that it had its volition and whether it would continue the program for four years but said in the legislation that if it was going well it would continue and I think that's about the most that we can expect from an American Congress and I believe very deeply that people abroad should be reassured by the real continuity of our policy which has now been demonstrated by two administrations and that it's not necessary to have it written on the dotted line the United States will respond to the general lines of policy which are bipartisan as demonstrated now both by the Truman and Eisenhower administrations in the foreign aid field the amounts may vary somewhat but in substance American policy will continue at least as it is and perhaps even more and more widely than it is an in-depth connection with Mr Jeffords do you think that the question of ministry aid issued if you would in the light of what you have the amount of troops you have stationed abroad and that it would not be a serious question if you were going to consider to diminish the amount I think it would be a serious question if we were going to consider material them and you shouldn't unless it were tied in either to greater commitments from our friends abroad and the allies of the free world abroad or a changed concept of free world security around. That by common consent to the great defense organizations to which we are party if we just pull out troops from abroad without either one of those things being true then I believe the reaction would be very adverse to the interests of the whole free world you mentioned before that you did not always agree with Secretary Dulles policy on Israel. How do you feel about that know that the. Secretary of State Dulles has decided to abandon the project of aiding Egypt in the construction of the Aswan Dam I thank you for that question Dr Mann I am because it points up something that I have very deeply on my mind I felt that we should have pursued the same policy in the Neris with respect to Israel that we pursued in Europe and that we pursued in Asia and helping free peoples to defend themselves against threats of Communist aggression and I considered the supply of arms by the Communists to Egypt as being as direct the threat of aggression against Israel as if the communists themselves had mounted forces that we felt exactly the same way about East Germany and about communist China therefore I believe that Israel should have been given some help with arms and in that respect I disagreed with Secretary Dulles Now as to its present the station on the ass want them I can only agree with that in this way if it is temporary and if the conditions are clearly prescribed to Egypt by which she can qualify herself for help to build the dam I believe that it's found in the interests of all concerned of the whole free world and of Israel itself but the dam should be built now this decision on doubt of Lee is dictated by the circumstances that Egypt has deprived the self of the economic capability for building the ass on them by her arms deal but I believe that the law should be kept open to her and I I rather think that that will be clearer in the next few days or perhaps in the next few weeks the door is being kept open to our both by the United States and by Great Britain and by the World Bank the qualifier self of the world says that the door has not been shot because I believe that the greatest contribution to peace in the air race is the effective resettlement of the Palestine are Brechtian G.'s one and two the the improvement in standards of living to which the S one them can contribute mightily therefore to summarise very clearly. I don't want to leave anybody in doubt as to my position upon this I believe that the United States having now done what it's done which was undoubtedly sound according to the immediate present situation should clearly stipulate exactly what needs to be done so that Egypt can qualify herself for this A then if she does that then she should have the aid to build a. Nest of I'm going to tell Mr Davidge one aspect of one aspect of American political campaigning which. Very much is quite a bit of comment brought in nine hundred fifty two was McCarthyism Now I just wonder what according TO YOU are the prospects for that factor in the forthcoming election I think that attitude of that kind of outlook is now as much in limbo as a solution is I'm in this country there are certainly still some French elements which believe as Senator McCarthy expressed himself in the year of two proceeding one thousand nine hundred fifty two that domestic Communists had to be fired out of be found at any price in terms of civil liberties and domestic freedoms I thoroughly disagreed with that myself and I believe the times of completely pass that by now that it will no longer be a major issue in the one nine hundred fifty six campaign. Most of us Piers you have to go and also. A very clear stand in the matter of civil rights do you think that also the House of Representatives has not voted the bill for civil rights that are still in the chance of becoming law there is always a chance most of us day as in our country even in the last hours of Congress I have seen such an important bill passed as the financing for the United Nations headquarters in New York City which I handled myself in the House of Representatives I didn't originate the ballot was given to me by the chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee when I was there so I would say there is hope but naturally in appraising the political actualities it doesn't seem that the US to be particularly luminous hope at the moment much as those of us who feel as I do with wish that it work I do believe that every effort ought to be made however by anyone who is a friend of civil rights even in these last few days land put their shoulders of the wheel as I am doing and that's now a special credit to me and as many others are doing regardless of party to see if we can get action in the Senate. But Mr Javid turning to the Democratic Party you know. Governor Heron the. One of the leading candidates I know as you have been working so closely with him I wonder if you could give us an opinion. On that and the prospects perhaps I cannot give you want ten yet about Governor Harman in terms of whether or not he ought to be the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party that's their business and not mine I'm not I'm not in that particular camp and I think it would be a front very for me to advance my opinion on the subject as to my opinion of Governor Harman's before months in the state of New York I have stated that before and I'm perfectly willing to state again I have not seen any spectacular performance any brilliant performance by our incumbent governor I've characterized the administration as pedestrian I think Governor Harman as an as and Sam man and he still has two years to go if he isn't the candidate that a successful candidate for president he may make a record which he hasn't made up to now but up to now I would not say that the record sweeps me off my feet Mr Attorney General you have been frequently mentioned lately as a possible candidate for Senate. Do you. As a liberal. Is of cause of importance and do you think that would you run would you accept the nomination for Senate there is this. I said some months ago that if. In the in the community opinion of the whole Republican Party in this state it was felt that I was the best person the characters are a follower of the Eisenhower policies as a candidate for the Senate but I would be available for that purpose and I said that it would have to be a community decision to which I was a party I still feel exactly that way I realize that time is much shot and now than it was then but there is still enough time to make that kind of a common decision and which the whole Republican Party in the state will participate to which I will be a party myself I can tell you it has not as yet been made whether it will be made between now and the official date of September tenth I'm in no position to tell you it certainly must be made by that. Mr Attorney General is always trying to form observers around a strange did a big city. Like New York with over eight million people is more or less financially at the eighth grade walking at the apron strings of the state which. Puts it which controls really everything of importance in the city of New York and I guess you have some specific views on that matter yes I think I have most of us there from my first specific view is that it doesn't sell the city of New York has a budget now running close to two billion dollars a year budget which of a lifetime I looked at my best recollection as ran in the area of a billion seven hundred million to a billion eight hundred million dollars a year that is three to four hundred million dollars a year more than the budget for the whole state of New York now despite the magnitude of those figures which I would like to repeat seventeen hundred to eighteen hundred million dollars a year despite the magnitude of those figures the city of New York came to Albany with an aggregate package which no matter how anybody would define it the nine hundred fifty six came to somewhere between twenty and forty or sixty million dollars at the very outside no one can convince me and I think any other reasonable person that the city which is spending seventeen hundred million dollars a year is an account of that twenty to sixty million dollars Those being the minimum and maximum at the apron strings of the state and shot I think this argument has been invoked to excuse difficulties and deficiencies and internal financing in the city and it's just an excuse it doesn't really represent a basic subst substance the fact which interferes with anything that anybody running a job efficiently wants to do now let me hasten to add that I have been for many things that the city wanted and I've also consider some of the things the city want to unreasonable in Albany and I will I'm all square fighting. For every penny the New York City ought to have our ought to contend for but I do not agree with the proposition that the city is that the state apron strings or that the city is the pendent upon the state for its financial viability and you don't think. The city should really constitute a separate state No I certainly do not because I think that New York State ties with the city of New York are so close and the whole structure of our government in the United States is of such a nature that the Make A federal district as it were of the city of New York would be completely out of the question and I really believe much against the best interest of the eight million people of the city Mr Javits I wonder you mention a few political figures of the Republican Party in the beginning you mention governor do we I wonder if you have any. For any post that Mr Postman could get into in a new engine or and ministration Well that's again very very speculative I have a greatest admiration for Mr Hofmann I served in the Congress when he was the head of the European aid programme I think he did a splendid job I think he's one of the very greatest Americans and one of the very greatest Republicans and I would be far and a post of great distinction which needed a man of his talents and there are plenty of IN THE do but it be completely speculative to estimate what kind of a job you shutter ought to have I would say Paul Hoffman would qualify for any post within the gift of our government and I have another question and it's a great interest. In its frequently ask what is the. Let's say the importance of which Senator Nolan could play on the foreign policy of the forthcoming administration Well I believe that sound of the Knowledge has a voice which can be heard and should be heard he is a sensei a man even though I don't agree with many of his views as everybody knows I am very much more at the national mindset in my own position and I have always expressed itself but I respect sincerity and I think a set of them all and have that I do not believe that scent of the mole and foreign policy views will be the policy foreign policy views of this administration because I think the size and the impact of President Eisenhower even apart from his office so great that he and his philosophy will dominate the Republican Party and the country so mean his re-election of President which I rather confidently assume most of us will literally Nation Senator Miller and is a member of the United States delegation to the forthcoming assembly General Assembly of the United Nations has. More than some interests abroad and I think it should miss the vast day or so wake an interest and the American delegation should be representative of all responsible facets of American opinion which Center the nolens is one I do not believe it is by anywhere near a majority opinion on the contrary I think it's a minority opinion and I believe very definitely that they delegation will carry out the philosophy and principles for which President Eisenhower stands to the world and none of them and do disagree Mr Jeffords with the militant stand this we got to recognition of communist China or allowing the communist regime to come in as the group is introducing of China into United Nations I believe that we would be very unwise at this time with communist China offering nothing in terms of becoming a cooperative member of the society of nations to admit how to the United Nations. But Mr Jarvis you said at this time if I may follow up on this question do you mean that at some later time you you might be agreeable to entry of Red China it all depends upon the situation which we face then remember that Communist China is holding Americans prison their own communicable has been guilty of fomenting a war in Korea for manning of a war and out China I would say that that's a pretty damn future to speculate as to when she would be ready to have us favor her for admission to the UN and I would say now I am definitely against that on this record again Mr Attorney General. Following up your mention of. For the moment you oppose the admission of communist China into the U.N. for the moment there was recently talk that the United States will not succeed in holding up the admission of common is China for more than this present session do you think this is true or do you think that communist China will not be admitted even after this year in the in the next General Assembly or the following Man I'm in my and my opinion I didn't say for the moment I said under present conditions and I believe that these conditions are likely to continue not only through this assembly but through the next one as well I'm sorry to interrupt gentlemen but our time is up tonight international interview feature New York State Attorney General Jacob Javits who was interviewed on the nation's political picture by a panel of newsman representing different overseas papers joining in the questioning where Arnold asked D.S. of the new Rotterdam current Holland Dr Joseph Mannheim So this news agency and the and I'm going to tell the Belgian news agency.