The Debate on Merit-Based vs. Family Unification Immigration; Let’s Talk About Class With Anna Sale; "Reciprocal Radicalization"

Coming up on today's show:

• Matthew O'Brien, director of research at the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), lays out the benefits of a merit-based immigration system for the United States while Anu Joshi, immigration policy director at the New York Immigration Coalition, makes the case for the current family unification immigration system.

• Anna Sale, host of Death Sex and Money, takes calls about your class status, and when you've felt it most in your life, and talks about Death Sex and Money's new series in partnership with Buzzfeed called "Opportunity Costs."

• Julia Ebner, London-based terrorism and extremism researcher, research fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a global fellow at the Project for the Study of the 21st Century and the author of The Rage: The Vicious Circle of Islamist and Far Right Extremism (I.B. Tauris & Co Ltd, 2018), argues that opposing extremists, Islamists and the far right, have created a cycle of rage that serves both groups' political aims while threatening liberal democracies.